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  1. MAK
    MAK December 14, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    Hey yo pathan, watever… whoever…wherever you are, i dun care u in shit or an a hole. Listen man, i am not kind to people who are not kind to my country….

    And what happened to all you people, who can speak there mind well, i have seen it (in a general sense) that people who can use good English to express there minds out, are generally against Pakistan Army, this n that. I dunno what happened to you guys.

    Pak Army, army generals, army this, f this f that. I mean when you talk of Pakistan’s Army (you guys who are against it always), always condemn it’s actions like it’s something not owned by you guys, that it’s something that is not of your country. Man there are a lot of things out there that you need to condemn, there are a lot of things destroying you from the inside, that you don’t talk about.

    Every one of you guys who speak against army, have you ever condemned your governmental institutions if any ??? have you spread hatred about them as you do for army ? You don’t because you know they hold the immediate power to hurt you, where army can’t hurt you because you can hide behind the wall of law. You guys put blame on army, look at your own selves bro….. WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THIS COUNTRY ???

    Doing shit ? learning, studying, getting knowledge go abroad (it’s just for discussion i know, not everyone does that), come back, do everything for your own benefit, what have you given to this country? You just criticize using fancy words, thinking you have the power to persuade so you can do everything and you are right always ?

    You speak fancy words, monopolists, mafia, crime syndicate, criminals, i mean who gave you the right to speak these words who ARE you ? Are you a mother/father of a son who lost his life for Pakistan ? Are you someone who suggested a solution to a long prevailing problem in Pakistan ? Are you a true descendant of a patriot? Are you someone who’s running a non-profit organization to help people of Pakistan ? Are you the law maker of the country ? Are you an angel, above and beyond any responsibility towards your country ?

    I’ll tell you who you are, you are just someone who’s dazzled by the idea of speaking against something YOU think is right. And speaking so blindly that you don’t even know where you are going !

    @ Parvez : And you pervez my dear, if i am a person who doesn’t read much or know my surrounding, and if i don’t have the ability to think (which most people don’t), after seeing your post, i would feel that you are not talking about and army but group of people just after destroying the country ? Listen baby, you don’t even know about Pak army, go live with them for a while, go share views with those who are actually fighting, bombing mosques, schools eh ? Being an army personnel gives you way more pool of ground realities that would extend your vision of thinking. I am not an army personnel, but i know that it’s not right. There are many a facts out there, who we don’t even know about, and just using our words, we scold so much, believe me man, we have a very short sihted view of realities so don’t say so much when you don’t (maybe we can;t) know much.

    And you pathan, hahah you are a funny guy i don’t know where you live, but i live in Pakistan. call 0900-78601 to know more… :p a hole.

    For those out there, who still have a little sense remaining in the very conscious corners of their minds, please feel the need of staying united.

  2. MAK
    MAK December 14, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    Yo Hamza, people of Pakistan .. man they are not with him …. and you say dancing tunes from washington, baby, what is your president doing IN washington ? he wants to hug the pretty lady ? dancing tunes, my foot.

  3. jutt
    jutt December 14, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    ithink this article is rubish not the reality pakistan army zindabad

  4. MAK
    MAK December 14, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    Now if you ask so i tell,
    only just a fact that i know (if someone know who i am, they are gonna come after me).
    You say so much about army eh ?
    What is your so called Democratic institution doing ? Overthrowing rules and regulations to make their own people benefit ?
    Where is this just in the whole ***ing world, that a clerk, after 10-11 years, gets a lump sum pay, and posted directly to a dupty director job in one of your own very banks in Pindi.
    This is just one case man, there a lot, a lot of things that we might not know, so stop speaking with your restricted views…
    People of Pakistan, know about the army, you don’t need to tell. You think, your ****ing democratic government is in place to save Pakistan ? bah ! they are not. I am not against democracy though, it’s a good idea for the people to be ruled by the people they like isn’t it.

  5. Hamza
    Hamza December 14, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    @MAK: Under the military rule, the whole country has become a cantonment. Military is dominating the life in Pakistan. Fascist Army has captured every civil institution including schools, universities, factories, hospitals, public offices and public utility services.

    Pakistan Army has grabbed a large area of state owned land and it is being allotted to Military officers.

    They are looting all resources of the nation.

    Musharraf bastard sold profitable national assets at throw-away prices and got huge kickbacks. Such corruption cases were exposed before the Supreme Court but Musharraf misused his power and used every dictatorial method to control protests against his corruptions.

    And, do you know was destroying the political process? Your idiot Kayani..

    People of Pakistan are under a continuous state of fear because of ISI and army. People are afraid to speak as they have seen how Military rulers killed Nawab Bugti for raising voice against dictatorship. Even international media is silent because army is supported by Washington based masters. Price for the fascist acts of Generals is being paid by common Pakistanis who are suffering poverty and humility.

  6. Hamza
    Hamza December 14, 2009 at 2:32 pm |

    @Aamir Mughal: very interesting Mughal Sahab. so you think this kanwal charecter is suspicious or what?

  7. Malik Rashid
    Malik Rashid December 14, 2009 at 6:12 pm |

    There are many educated Pakistanis looking for jobs but GEO TV hires
    an individual who does not know how to speak properly, does not have
    the manners to address others and behaves like a police havaldar. This
    person, out of his naive exuberance reports that Wajid Shamsul
    Hassan’s collecting of documents from Zardari’s lawyer in Geneva is a
    heinous criminal activity. The ISI/army is digging us deeper with
    their wars against Baluch and Pukhtuns but soon the Sindhis might have
    to face their wrath again. These are very troubling times for the
    country.

  8. MAK
    MAK December 14, 2009 at 7:04 pm |

    Listen Hamza, i don’t know why are you so much against army. Like army has done something personally wrong to you. You ask for owning lands and this and that.
    How do you justify one owning 31 cars ? One of your ministers ? Do you think you are able to speak againsst zardari ? If you are go out and speak out loud, someone will tell you what happens to you.
    You always want to put all the blame on Musharraf, like everyone else is ana angel eh ? Atleast, he can let the people speak, if you remember one mulla speakin against him in a congregation.
    And you talk of looiting, there’s much harm that your one president, or his pesticides ministers do to the state, i don’t think so i need to tell that to anyone, everyone knows about it.
    Just because it’s easy to scold army, does not give you the right to speak anything, based on your personal emotions against the so respected institution.
    Your president, huh, in a closed door meeting, Benazir’s will was opened and he got to lead the party as a vice ? Do you expect me to believe that shit ? A person who personally Benazir didn’t want to come into politics and abstained him from engaging in it? bah !
    No one is under fear of Kayani, army, or ISI. Yeah i am under fear what your defence ministers, president or other pesticides may do to my country.

    And please STOP mixing personal hatred with facts, if you please.

  9. MAK
    MAK December 14, 2009 at 7:06 pm |

    Againt, no one knows about the real facts, you are only told, what THEY want you to know.
    About bugti there are a lot of things which you don’t know, maybe we can’t know……..
    Have you ever spoken to a person under the rule of bugti’s by yourself ? Without telling them that you are doing so ? Talk to me when you’ve done that.

  10. MAK
    MAK December 14, 2009 at 7:47 pm |

    >>> Sorry, replace “Pesticide” with “Parasite”, i mean parasite…. :p my bad…. <<<<

  11. Muhammad
    Muhammad December 14, 2009 at 7:59 pm |

    the moment one see your face Mr Sajid one could see very easily what a real khabees you are like masters like a DOG wanker !!!
    GET A LYF BITCH

  12. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 14, 2009 at 9:50 pm |

    @Hamza:

    Dear Hamza Sahab,

    Dr Javed Kanwal is just a small fish in a big game, a glimpse from 90s is as under: Kamal Azfar & Threats To The Democracy in Pakistan.

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/12/kamal-azfar-threats-to-democracy-in.html

  13. iyiKhan
    iyiKhan December 15, 2009 at 1:18 am |

    Respected Pakistanies…… We are all Pakistanies so please dont CRY.

    Thanks.

  14. BABA IBR MAD
    BABA IBR MAD December 15, 2009 at 1:28 am |

    my doggy come to me i will feed you coz you are a jew full of poisionous cospiracies in ur blood, an idiot owl baba ibrahim come to pakistan then c ur vvip treatment at thana gawalmundi drawing room dats waiting for you since you have started spreading hate for pakistan ….. don’t forget you will find the same result for u & ur family what u are planting for pakistan’s image worldwide

  15. arzoo
    arzoo December 15, 2009 at 1:48 am |

    You are right
    Kiyani was alsi ISI head when ISI was selling pakistani’s to US
    Kiyani has earned a lot from tht
    These filthy generals should be hanged on constitution avenue

  16. Jibz
    Jibz December 15, 2009 at 2:50 am |

    Well this certainly is a lop sided assessment of the fiasco. If et all ISI is involved why go out of the way to defend AZ and his cronies. Come on Mr. Malick اس حمام میں بہت سارے بے لباس ہیں no need to side with either parties

  17. Hamza
    Hamza December 15, 2009 at 3:21 am |

    @MAK: Pakistani society has been militarizied and corrupted by these generals. Nowhere I have said a word against the soldiers- who are also exploited by these generals.

    MAK sahab please look at the history. International Fund for Peace declared Pakistan a failed state in 2006 because of the policies of General Musharraf. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch condemned the criminal policies of the fascist General. Transparency International ranked his government as most corrupt in the history of Pakistan. But he was not willing to leave the office, ignoring protests in the country, condemnation worldwide and worsening situations of homeland security, national economy and human rights.

    Like other generals before him- Musharaf sunk us so deep we can hardly breath. General Kayani was ISI chief at a time when Pakistanis were being kidnapped by this agency and were being handed over to CIA. Kayani and Musharaf sold Pakistanis to America. What happened to Dr. Afia Siddiqi and her little kids? Kindly explain…

  18. Hamza
    Hamza December 15, 2009 at 3:24 am |

    @Aamir Mughal: Great article Mughal Sahab. I am impressed with the depth of your knowledge. When did you work for IB?

  19. lift the veil from ur eyes
    lift the veil from ur eyes December 15, 2009 at 3:59 am |

    look at all of you deluded guys. you guys dont even know that the amercan gov has taken your pants off and ur running naked. We dont even remember that these guys including india took advantage of the Qaum’s foolery and endless bikering and permanent greed to break pakistan (east and west Pakistan that is), they all ready broke pakistan and were still deluded that pak fauj will give biffiting reply to one who castes an evil eye on pakistan. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! God save us from our relatives, we’ll take care of our ememies ourselves!!!

  20. MAK
    MAK December 15, 2009 at 4:34 am |

    i would really like to comment on that Hamza, when i have done my homework i’ll come back to you. Actually i am having exams these days.
    But then again Hamza, one point to ponder about. We CANNOT put all the blanme on Musharraf or any other single person, i mean if we can scold Musharraf so much, why don’t we scold all the other bad people out there ? Why can’t you raise fingers at Zardari ? Rehman Malik ? Nazim of karachi ? the sufi sahab in london his highness mr. Altaf Hussain ? And so many other people ? Why ? because they are in power to hurt you back if you are found raising fingers at them, in a way in broad day light, and you won’t be able to question them, that’s why.
    I think rather then blaming people, if we in ourselves can inculcate true sense of patriotism, honesty and faithfulness, and in whatever positions we are, if we perform above and beyond the call of duty, i think no one, no bad person would dare to lead a NATION like it, but now, we are divided, we fight, we scold each other, we use our energies and words, to gain appreciation self content and so on. A NATION has to stand united, and let me ask you, what happens if your brother start doing wrong deeds ? Do you scold him consider him an alien in your house ? No, you care for the idea of being a family, that’s what we are, we all Pakistanis are a family, there’s no Sindhi, no punajbi no Pashtun, No Baluch, no kashmiri, all Pakistani. These are just people aspired by a different culture. So, we should treat us all like a family, like our own family, not scolding, but really DOING something to rectify, taking all the people along.

    Because, you know too, it’s always easy to put the blame on others, esp to the previous establishment so that you can hide your own weaknesses. It’s a renowned fact which you can’t deny.

    So treat anyone you hate like a person, not a whole institution !

    Live in peace, spread love.

  21. Falak Sher Khan
    Falak Sher Khan December 15, 2009 at 4:43 am |

    @Qadeer: Yes he is, & everyone like him who is doing something for Pakistan, not like you people who mostly belong to some indian cell, paid to write against Pakistan, I know ur games, jst let us get free from these paid non muslims bastard talibans than we will see all of u bullshit spreaders & people like this writer,

  22. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 15, 2009 at 7:57 am |

    @Hamza:

    Hamza Sahab,

    I am proud that I served Pakistan by being an employee of Intelligence Bureau from 1990 to 2001 and honourably resigned in 2001.

  23. Hamza
    Hamza December 15, 2009 at 8:40 am |

    @Aamir Mughal: You should be proud. IB is a good organizatin. I wish ISI had not undermined it so much. I like your blog too :-)

  24. Hamza
    Hamza December 15, 2009 at 8:44 am |

    @MAK: Please work hard and prepare for exam. We will talk later. Internet is not going anywhere :-)
    We may not agree on everything but I see that you are sensible.
    You absolutely right – we should keep Altaf Hussain, Nawaz Sharif, Imran Khan, Zardari, army generals and everyone else in position of power ‘honest’.
    Good luck with your exams!

  25. Hamza
    Hamza December 15, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    @Falak Sher Khan: I am as Pakistani as it gets. These Talibans are ISI creation anyway. If Pak army had the courage to kick India’s ass, I will be on the frontline. But how can I forget 1965, 1971, 1999? These hijras can never win a war.
    Cheers,

  26. Farrukh
    Farrukh December 15, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    @ CHANDIO …

    You decide whats right and wrong by looking at History? im sorry to say this but your the monkey in this case ..

    You wanna decide whats right and wrong ,, well you can’t because you are just a human .. and our standards change time to time …

    You think Democracy is right .. three words for you brother ..

    READ THE QURAN …

    if you believe in it .. then you might even find the answer .. Democracy is just a hoax created by people who want power in this world .. thats it!

  27. lollzz
    lollzz December 15, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    @Jawad Khan: IQBAL WARNED US ABT DEMOCRACY
    Jamhooriat woh tarze hukoomat hai jisme bandon ko gina karte hain tola nahin karte

    is raaz ko farangi(AMERICA) ne kiya fash….
    harchand ke danAA ise bola nahin karte…

    WHT IS THE CRAPPY SYSTEMMMM…..ALL AROUND THE WORLD WE HAVE A TOTAL OF TWO OR THREE PARTIES…..PPL JUST GET TO CHOOSE BETWEEN TWO PPL BOTH EQUALLY AS BAD…AND WE CALL THIS AN ELECTED GOVTTTT….IMAGINE YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A DICKHEAD AND A PIGHEAD!!!! I’D RATHER NOT SKIP THIS RIGHT TO CHOOSE!!!!

  28. Fatima Mubarak Ali
    Fatima Mubarak Ali December 15, 2009 at 10:23 pm |

    @lollzz: In his 6th speech on ‘Reconstruction of religious thought in Islam’, Allama Iqbal stated that Islamic state is established on the principles of freedom, equality, and the absolute principles of stability. Therefore the principles of democratic rule is not only similar with the fundamental aspects of Islam rather the executing powers are enhanced in the Muslim world (Mohakabi Iqbal, Iqbal the Great Poet by Dr. Abu Said Nuruddin)

    Iqbal observed, should the foundation of democracy rests upon spiritual and moral values, it would be the best political system. He wrote in the “The New Era” on its 28th July, 1917 issue: that democracy was born in Europe from economic renaissance that took place in most of its societies…….But Islamic democracy is not developed from the idea of economic advancement rather it is a spiritual principle that comes from the principle that everybody is a source of power whose possibilities can be developed through virtue and character”. [Mohakabi Iqbal ( Iqbal the Great Poet) by Dr. Abu Said Nuruddin, page -239)

    That means according to Iqbal Islam prescribes democracy under the law of Allah.

  29. Fatima Mubarak Ali
    Fatima Mubarak Ali December 15, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    @Farrukh: Democracy is an aspect of Islam, while dictatorship contradicts it. The tyrant acts like God, making the people submit to him and punishing them if they do not. The tyrant is never accountable to his people. The Muslim tyrant puts himself higher than the prophet Mohammed, who was democratic in his dealings with others. In this way, the Muslim tyrant indirectly claims the status of a god beside the One God. Moreover, dictatorship is also opposed to justice, which is the basic aim of all the divine messages of God. Justice is the basic foundation of Islamic laws. This means that democracy, taken as an aspect of justice, is a central part of the Islamic faith and should be considered one of Islam’s ritual commandments.

    In a sura, or chapter, named Al-Shura, or democracy, the Quran describes Muslim society as one in which individuals respond to their Lord, observe their prayers, whose affairs are by consultation among them, and from whose provisions they donate (42:38).

    In this verse, the commandment of shura, or consultation, appears between the two famous commandments of prayer and charity (salat and zakat). Like every ritual commandment in Islam, shura is a personal duty, which no one can perform on behalf of another. Put another way, no one can represent anyone but himself. Shura represents the kind of direct democracy in which all the people participate in the meetings held to discuss community affairs. In addition, Muslims are urged to practice shura in their work and family lives, much like they are exhorted to pray five times a day.

    The chapter on shura was revealed in Mecca, where Muslims were persecuted by the Quraysh tribe but continued to hold secret meetings in the home of Al Arkam in the spirit of shura. And they continued to practice it publicly in their new state of Al Madina.

    Yet the tradition of attending open meetings with the prophet and discussing their affairs was a new one for the inhabitants of Al Madina. Some of them left the meetings with or without excuse. Because it is a ritual commandment in Islam, God strongly warned Muslims that He would punish them in this life and in the hereafter if they abandoned their meetings.[24:62-to 64]

  30. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 16, 2009 at 12:24 am |

    Dear Editor

    The Funniest Thing rather a Fact that Jang Group of Newspapers had raised hell against the Former Senator Saifur Rehman during 1999
    Senator Saifur Rehman (PML-N) VS Jang Group of Newspapers. [http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/11/senator-saifur-rehman-pml-n-vs-jang.html ] and in 20009 it is the same Jang Group of Newspapers i.e. Mir Shakilur Rehman [MSR] Dr Shahid Masood, Muhammad Saleh Zaafir, Kamran Khan, Ansar Abbasi, Muhammad Ahmed Noorani AND OTHERS who are making a Hero out of Saifur Reham [as per law a proclaimed offender and fugitive] him, and telecasting his live program on Meray Mutabiq GEO TV DATED 14 DEC 2009, watch the program, read the news and lament on the hypocrisy of Pakistani media:

    Meray Mutabiq 14 December 2009 [Free Video]

    http://thecurrentaffairs.com/meray-mutabiq-14-december-2009.html

    Post subject: Meray Mutabiq – 14 Dec 2009 (Saif ur Rehman) Must Watch

    http://www.siasat.pk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=14096

    in Meray Mutabiq Dr. Shahid Masood brings a fresh episode of Meray Mutabiq discussing corruption issue with Saif ur Rehman.

    http://pkpolitics.com/2009/12/14/meray-mutabiq-14-decemebr-2009/

    Article of Shahid Masood in Dail Jang Dated 15-12-2009 WAS PUBLISHED ON INTERNET BUT NO MORE ON JANG SITE BUT IT MUST BE ON HARD COPY. It is removed at 1939 dated 15-12-2009.

    More on Senator Saifur Rehman:

  31. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 17, 2009 at 12:34 am |

    Roedad Khan filed petition against NRO but who will look into the affairs of Roedad Khan???

    Now, my friend Roedad Khan, perpetual bureaucrat steeped in the art of bureaucracy, yet again ready to serve his country, has reacted in a letter printed in this newspaper on July 26. Apparently, his innocence has been injured. He denies having had any connection with those in President Ghulam Ishaq’s secretariat who were paid to ‘fix’ the 1991 elections. We never learn from history-3 By Ardeshir Cowasjee 11 August 2002 Sunday 01 Jamadi-us-Saani 1423 http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20020811.htm

  32. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 17, 2009 at 12:35 am |

    Roedad Khan and NRO

    Mehrangate exposures which had recently appeared in the press, asking how the inquiry was progressing, and giving his own views. They exchanged information, each believing the other was being informed. They talked about how COAS Aslam Beg (sporter of shades in the shade) managed to get Rs 14 crore (140 million) from Yunis Habib, then of Habib Bank. This was deposited in the ‘Survey Section 202′ account of Military Intelligence (then headed by Major-General Javed Ashraf Kazi). From there Rs 6 crore was paid to President Ghulam Ishaq Khan’s election cellmates (General Rafaqat, Roedad Khan, Ijlal Hyder Zaidi, etc.), and Rs 8 crore transferred to the ISI account. We never learn from history By Ardeshir Cowasjee dated 21 July 2002 Sunday 10 Jamadi-ul-Awwal 1423 http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20020721.htm

  33. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 17, 2009 at 12:37 am |

    A quick sentence on this would do!!:)

    ISLAMABAD, May 29: The Chief Justice of Pakistan, Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, on Tuesday narrated for the first time his version of the events of of May 9 at the President’s camp office in Rawalpindi. He said in an affidavit that top intelligence officials had constantly pressured him into resigning, and after keeping him confined at the office for over five hours, he was allowed to leave in a flagless car. “I was informed that I have been restrained from acting as the chief justice.” The `non-functional’ chief justice informed the full-bench hearing identical petitions against the presidential reference that since the action of March 9, he had remained a victim of intrusive and not-so-intrusive intelligence and police operation. “I replied that it was not based on facts as my case was decided by a two-member bench and that attempts are being made to maliciously involve the other member of the Bench as well.” After this, the president said there were a few more complaints as well, directing his staff to call the ‘other persons’. The ‘other persons’ entered the room immediately. They were: Prime Minster Shaukat Aziz, the Directors General of Military Intelligence (MI), Director General of Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), Director General Intelligence Bureau (IB), Chief of Staff (COS) and another official. All officials (except the IB chief and the COS) were in uniform. “The meeting lasted about 30 minutes. The chiefs of the MI, ISI and IB stayed back, but they too did not show him me a single piece of evidence.” In fact, Justice iftikhar said, no official, except the ISI chief, had any document with him. The officials, however, alleged that Justice Iftikhar had used his influence to get his son admitted in Bolan Medical College, Quetta, when he was serving as a judge of the Balochistan High Court. The ISI and MI heads persisted in their demand for resignation, the CJ said. “I refused, saying that the demand has a collateral purpose.” “I was kept there absolutely against my will till 5pm. I was stopped there on one pretext or the other and at one stage was told the president will once again see me. “After 5pm, the MI chief told me `This is a bad day. Now you are taking a separate way and you are informed that you have been restrained from working as a judge of the Supreme Court or the Chief Justice of Pakistan’.” Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry further said when he came out of the room, he was stunned to find that the national flag and the insignia of office were no longer there on his car. “My staff officer later informed me Justice Javed Iqbal has taken oath as Acting Chief Justice and it has been shown on TV. My driver said he had been instructed not to drive the Chief Justice to the Supreme Court.” REFERENCE: CJ says chiefs of MI, ISI asked him to quit: Affidavit on March 9 camp office event By Iftikhar A. Khan May 30, 2007 Wednesday Jamadi-ul-Awwal 13, 1428 http://www.dawn.com/2007/05/30/top1.htm

  34. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 17, 2009 at 12:38 am |

    How about a sentence or two:)

    What about a Sentence on this?

    PAKISTAN: Corruption cases against Generals, Air Marshals and Admirals are the test of an independent judiciary http://www.ahrchk.net/statements/mainfile.php/2009statements/2332

  35. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 17, 2009 at 12:44 am |

    Fixing the Bhuttos and Zardari too!!!

    It said in February 2001, the Sunday Times published a report based on transcripts of 32 audio tapes, which revealed that Qayyum convicted Benazir Bhutto and Zardari for political reasons. The transcripts of the recordings reproduced by the newspaper showed that Qayyum asked the then prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s anti-corruption chief, Saifur Rehman, for advice on the sentence: “Now you tell me how much punishment do you want me to give her?” Malik Qayyum in new row over rigging By Muhammad Ahmad Noorani AG caught on tape again; denies HRW report Saturday, February 16, 2008 http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=12981

    The Friday Times, Editorial by Najam Sethi, Feb. 15, 2001
    http://www.chowk.com/interacts/4948/1/0/a

    The Sunday Times of London has recently published a story that damns politicians and state institutions alike in Pakistan. The report suggests that an official of the Intelligence Bureau was ordered in 1998 by the head of the Accountability Bureau, Mr Saif ur Rehman, to tap the telephones of Justice Abdul Qayyum of the Lahore High Court (illegal order by politicians, illegal implementation by IB). The IB official later pocketed the tapes and decamped to London, eventually handing them over to the British newspaper. If true, the conversations between Justice Qayyum and Saif ur Rehman, Khalid Anwar (then law minister), Mrs Abdul Qayyum and others are fascinating because they reveal the political bankruptcy of the system and those who are elected or nominated to make it work.

    The tapes suggest that Justice Qayyum was bullied by the then prime minister Nawaz Sharif and his minions into convicting former prime minister Benazir Bhutto and her spouse Asif Zardari for corruption in 1998. This means that – irrespective of the substantial evidence laid against the two accused – the trial wasn`t conducted entirely in a free or fair manner as required by law. Ms Bhutto shrieked as much during and after the trial but critics, including TFT, dismissed her allegations against Justice Qayyum as inconceivable. Hence when the review petition comes up for hearing before the Supreme Court on February 26, the court will be hard put to choose between acquitting the couple or ordering a fresh trial. If it clings to a third option – upholding the verdict – it risks being tarred by the same brush.

  36. Pervez
    Pervez December 17, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    @Aamir Mughal: Oh my God! I didn’t know Pakistani generals were corrupt :-)
    Of course everyone knows that but Mughal sahab thanks compiling all this information. I can now send it to all the Army Lovers :-)

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  38. Patriotic Pakistani
    Patriotic Pakistani December 17, 2009 at 9:36 pm |

    TRAITORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

    Sajid Malick You are getting funds to write against Pakistan.

    We love Pakistan Army and ISI. They are the defenders of our Mother land.

    Pakistan Zindabad
    Pakistan Army & ISI Zindabad

  39. 100 Patriotic Pakistani
    100 Patriotic Pakistani December 17, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    Sajid Malick , wajid ya haqqani Pakistan Aayaa to tumsaab ko qatal kar daingay RAW, CIA aur MOSSAD—-You are getting funds to write against Pakistan.

    We love Pakistan Army and ISI. They are the defenders of our Mother land.

    Pakistan Zindabad
    Pakistan Army & ISI Zindabad

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    [...] ISI had plotted a stint to malign the President of Pakistan when the Pakistani High Commisioner to Britain was intercepted [...]

  41. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 18, 2009 at 5:21 am |

    @100 Patriotic Pakistani:

    Indeed Zindabad with a Track Record like this!

    The series of assassinations in Former East Pakistan [now Bangladesh] was started from 1969 when a Shams Duaa-Haa, professor of Chemistry in Rajshahi University, was assassinated in daylight. Let me explain what the Al-Badar and Al-Shams were and are? Al-Badar was and is militant wing of Jamait Islami and a paramilitary force formed in Bangladesh in 1971 by General Yahya INC. Al-Badar forget that what the real Jihad is ? And fight against the Muslims in Bangladesh, Bengalis use to call Al-Badar as “Butcher of Bangladesh.” The Al Badar was assigned a variety of combat and non-combat tasks including taking part in the operations, spying against Bengali Intellectuals, interrogation, working as the guides for Tikka Khan and Niazi, assassination, detecting and killing Bengali intellectuals. The force was composed of madrassah students-teachers, supporters of Muslim League and Jamait Islami. History tell us that killings which began on 25 March 1971 and sparked the Bangladesh Liberation War and also led to the deaths of at least 26,000 people as admitted by Pakistan on one hand (by the Hamoodur Rahman Commission) and 3,000,000 by Bangladesh on the other hand, (From 1972 to 1975 the first post-war prime minister of Bangladesh, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, mentioned on several occasions that at least three million died).

    Doctor Fazl Rabbi was an eye specialist; he was kidnapped by Al-Badar. Next day his body was found from a drainage line. His both eyes were vanished and there were marks of switchblade. “What should we think about such peccadilloes?”

    Ex-militants of Al-Badar are settled in UK and other European countries and they are appointed as cleric of mosques there. And I want to remind the readers that too, “Jamait Islami’s former leader Maulana Modudi had rejected the theory of Pakistan but since 1947, when Pakistan came into being, it is claimed by the leaders of Jamait Islami that they are playing leading role of toady.

  42. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 18, 2009 at 5:23 am |

    @100 Patriotic Pakistani:

    Indeed Zindabad with a Track Record like this!

    Let give you a glimpse as to who is ruling and ruining and running the country:

    Read…

    Hamoodur Rahman Commission Report
    http://www.bangla2000.com/Bangladesh/Independence-War/Report-Hamoodur-Rahman/default.shtm

    Chapter 1

    The Moral Aspect

    Introductory

    In Chapter I of Part V of the Main Report, we have dealt at some length with the moral aspect of the causes of our defeat in the 1971 War. This became necessary in view of the vehement assertions made before the Commission by a large number of respectable witnesses drawn from various sections of society, including highly placed and responsible Service Officers, to the effect that due to corruption arising out of the performance of Martial Law duties, lust for wine and women and greed for lands and houses, a large number of senior Army Officers, particularly those occupying the highest positions, had not only lost the will to fight but also the professional competence necessary for taking the vital and critical decisions demanded of them for the successful prosecution of the war. It was asserted by these witnesses that men given to a disreputable way of life could hardly be expected to lead the Pakistan Army to victory http://www.bangla2000.com/Bangladesh/Independence-War/Report-Hamoodur-Rahman/chapter1.shtm

  43. JALAYBI.COM » Blog Archive » Clearing Air: An Interview With Wajid Shamsul Hassan

    [...] ISI had plotted a stint to malign the President of Pakistan and that is why the Pakistani High Commisioner to Britain was [...]

  44. khan
    khan December 19, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    @Kashif Naqvi:

    Dear Malick, our state is still safe because of ISI otherwise the group of greedy politicians (Wajid shams ul Hasan has benefitted from NRO) supported by ppl like u might have sold dis country long long time ago..
    Regards,

    sorry brother why you saying only politicians have you forgotten who sold Army ISI shame on you we always forget the facts.

  45. khan
    khan December 19, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    @khan: @khan:

    @Kashif Naqvi:sorry brother why you saying only politicians have you forgotten who sold AFIA our sister it was Army ISI shame on you we always forget the facts.

  46. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 19, 2009 at 8:05 pm |

    @khan:

    Where is CJ and day to day proceedings like NRO on this case, watch the BBC documentary.

    ’سیف اللہ پر نیو یارک میں مقدمہ نہ چلائیں‘

    ریاض سہیل

    بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، کراچ

    آخری وقت اشاعت: جمعـء, 18 دسمبر, 2009, 18:52 GMT 23:52 PST

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2009/12/091218_paracha_icrc_rh.shtml

  47. Jawad Khan
    Jawad Khan December 20, 2009 at 4:25 am |

    @Pathan..
    You *** indian, you bitch.. I called that number, the guy replied he loves Punjab.. His daughter’s are married with punjabi boys. Why would he bullshit like that..

  48. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 20, 2009 at 8:16 am |

    PAKISTAN ARMY JUSTICE:

    Asif Zardari, husband of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, has waited for more than 5 years for the start of his trial on charges of killing his brother-in-law, Murtaza Bhutto in 1997. In April 1999, Zardari was tried and convicted separately on corruption charges. In December 2001 Zardari received bail but was not released; the NAB ordered his continued detention on suspicion of corruption. Despite government claims that NAB cases would be pursued independent of an individual?s political affiliation, NAB has taken a selective approach to anti-corruption efforts (see Section 1.d.). The Musharraf Government in 1999 created by ordinance the NAB and special accountability courts to try corruption cases (see Section 1.d.). The NAB was created in part to deal with as much as $4 billion (PKR 208 billion) that was estimated to be owed to the country’s banks (all of which were state-owned at the time; several have since been privatized) by debtors, primarily from among the wealthy elite. The Musharraf Government stated that it would not target genuine business failures or small defaulters and does not appear to have done so. The NAB was given broad powers to prosecute corruption cases, and the accountability courts were expected to try such cases within 30 days. As originally promulgated, the ordinance prohibited courts from granting bail and gave the NAB chairman sole power to decide if and when to release detainees.
    The ordinance also allowed those suspected by the State Bank of Pakistan of defaulting on government loans or of corrupt practices to be detained for 15 days without charge (renewable with judicial concurrence) and, prior to being charged, did not allow access to counsel. In accountability cases, there was a presumption of guilt, and conviction under the ordinance can result in 14 years’ imprisonment, fines, and confiscation of property. Those convicted also originally were disqualified from running for office or holding office for 10 years. In August 2000, the Government announced that persons with a court conviction would be barred from holding party office. This provision was used during the general election to prevent certain candidates from entering the contest. REFERENCE: Pakistan
    Country Reports on Human Rights Practices Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor
    2002 March 31, 2003 http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2002/18314.htm
    Pakistan
    National Level: The Musharraf Government in 1999 created by Ordinance the NAB (National Accountability Bureau) and special accountability courts to try exclusively corruption cases. These Courts are part of the national judicial system and operate under the Chief Justices of the High Courts of Pakistan. For up-to-date statistics on the number and type of cases files, convicted and acquitted, please refer to the Appendix. The NAB was created in part to deal with as much as $4 billion (PKR 208 billion) that was estimated to be owed to the country’s banks (all of which were state-owned at the time; several have since been privatized) by debtors, primarily from among the wealthy elite. The Musharraf Government stated that it would not target genuine business failures or small defaulters and does not appear to have done so. The NAB was given broad powers to prosecute corruption cases, and the accountability courts were expected to try such cases within 30 days. As originally promulgated, the ordinance prohibited courts from granting bail and gave the NAB chairman sole power to decide if and when to release detainees.
    The ordinance also allowed those suspected by the State Bank of Pakistan of defaulting on government loans or of corrupt practices to be detained for 15 days without charge (renewable with judicial concurrence) and, prior to being charged, did not allow access to counsel. In accountability cases, there was a presumption of guilt, and conviction under the ordinance can result in 14 years’ imprisonment, fines, and confiscation of property. Originally, those convicted were set to disqualify from running for office or holding office for 10 years. In August 2000, the Government announced that persons with a court conviction would be barred from holding party office. This provision was applied during the general election to prevent certain candidates from entering the contest. REFERENCE:
    I. Special Corruption Courts in Asia http://www.u4.no/helpdesk/helpdesk/queries/query19.cfm
    The new government’s principal vehicle for detaining former officials and party leaders, however, was the National Accountability Ordinance, a law ostensibly created to bring corrupt officials to account. The ordinance confers sweeping powers of arrest, investigation, and prosecution in a single institution, the National Accountability Bureau (NAB), and permits detainees to be held for up to ninety days without being brought before a court. The law was later amended to facilitate conviction by shifting the burden of proof during trial from the prosecution to the defense.
    There were persistent reports of ill treatment in NAB custody, particularly in the case of high profile detainees who were held early in the year in Attock Fort. Persons convicted under the ordinance were prohibited from holding public office for a period of twenty-one years. An amendment to the Political Parties Act in August also barred anyone with a court conviction from holding party office. The combined effect of these acts, as they were applied, was to eliminate the existing leadership of the major political parties. While administration officials said that parties would be allowed to participate in future elections to the Senate and national and provincial assemblies, local government elections, scheduled to be held in December, were to be conducted on a non-party basis.
    The Musharraf government also suppressed political activity by conducting raids on party offices, preventing political rallies from being held, and lodging criminal cases against rally organizers under laws governing sedition and the Maintenance of Public Order (MPO) Ordinance. The sedition law, Section 124-A of the Pakistan Penal Code, criminalizes speech that “brings or attempts to bring into hatred or contempt, or excites or attempts to excite disaffection towards, the Central or Provincial Government established by law.” Section 16 of the Maintenance of Public Order Ordinance prohibits speech that “causes or is likely to cause fear or alarm to the public” or any section thereof, or which “furthers or is likely to further any activity prejudicial to public safety or the maintenance of public order.”
    Rana Sanaullah Khan, a member of the suspended Punjab provincial assembly from Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League (PML), was arrested in Faisalabad on November 28, 1999. The arrest came after he criticized the army at a meeting of former legislators and urged his colleagues to launch a protest movement against the military government. He was tortured while in custody, and criminal charges were registered against him under the sedition law and MPO .
    On March 15, the government formally curtailed freedom of association and assembly with an order banning public rallies, demonstrations, and strikes. The order’s enforcement against a procession from Lahore to Peshawar that Nawaz Sharif’s wife, Kulsoom Nawaz, had planned to lead, resulted in the arrests of at least 165 PML leaders and activists. On September 21 the ban was also invoked against 250 members of the hardline Sunni Muslim group, Sipah-e-Sahaba, who had planned a march to celebrate a religious anniversary. REFERENCE: Human Rights Developments http://www.hrw.org/legacy/wr2k1/asia/pakistan.html

  49. Aamir Mughal
    Aamir Mughal December 21, 2009 at 10:30 pm |

    How is it that those behind the deal-making based on this unconstitutional and illegal ordinance were not named and shamed/charged outright? Indeed, as reported widely at the time, the present chief of army staff was the DG ISI when the final draft of the NRO was being presented to Benazir in Dubai and was part of Musharraf’s team sent to convince her. Let us be grateful for small mercies By Kamran Shafi Tuesday, 22 Dec, 2009 http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/let-us-be-grateful-for-small-mercies-229

    ISLAMABAD, May 29: The Chief Justice of Pakistan, Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, on Tuesday narrated for the first time his version of the events of of May 9 at the President’s camp office in Rawalpindi. He said in an affidavit that top intelligence officials had constantly pressured him into resigning, and after keeping him confined at the office for over five hours, he was allowed to leave in a flagless car. “I was informed that I have been restrained from acting as the chief justice.” The `non-functional’ chief justice informed the full-bench hearing identical petitions against the presidential reference that since the action of March 9, he had remained a victim of intrusive and not-so-intrusive intelligence and police operation. “I replied that it was not based on facts as my case was decided by a two-member bench and that attempts are being made to maliciously involve the other member of the Bench as well.” After this, the president said there were a few more complaints as well, directing his staff to call the ‘other persons’. The ‘other persons’ entered the room immediately. They were: Prime Minster Shaukat Aziz, the Directors General of Military Intelligence (MI), Director General of Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), Director General Intelligence Bureau (IB), Chief of Staff (COS) and another official. All officials (except the IB chief and the COS) were in uniform. “The meeting lasted about 30 minutes. The chiefs of the MI, ISI and IB stayed back, but they too did not show him me a single piece of evidence.” In fact, Justice iftikhar said, no official, except the ISI chief, had any document with him. The officials, however, alleged that Justice Iftikhar had used his influence to get his son admitted in Bolan Medical College, Quetta, when he was serving as a judge of the Balochistan High Court. The ISI and MI heads persisted in their demand for resignation, the CJ said. “I refused, saying that the demand has a collateral purpose.” “I was kept there absolutely against my will till 5pm. I was stopped there on one pretext or the other and at one stage was told the president will once again see me. “After 5pm, the MI chief told me `This is a bad day. Now you are taking a separate way and you are informed that you have been restrained from working as a judge of the Supreme Court or the Chief Justice of Pakistan’.” Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry further said when he came out of the room, he was stunned to find that the national flag and the insignia of office were no longer there on his car. “My staff officer later informed me Justice Javed Iqbal has taken oath as Acting Chief Justice and it has been shown on TV. My driver said he had been instructed not to drive the Chief Justice to the Supreme Court.” REFERENCE: CJ says chiefs of MI, ISI asked him to quit: Affidavit on March 9 camp office event By Iftikhar A. Khan May 30, 2007 Wednesday Jamadi-ul-Awwal 13, 1428 http://www.dawn.com/2007/05/30/top1.htm

  50. Adnan Mehmood
    Adnan Mehmood April 18, 2011 at 7:21 pm |

    In this whole Article their is no thing to believe. All the things that he mentions are just his imagination whole PPP party is Corrupt and their basic aim to destroy the Pakistan. All the political parties of Pakistan PML(N),PPP,MQM,MMA,PML(F),PML(Q) are the paid parties of America,UK,Isrial and Russia and the leaders of these parties are the paid agents of these countries.

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