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  1. BABA IBR MAD
    BABA IBR MAD November 19, 2009 at 12:25 am |

    Baba Ibrahim do some other job you can’t ever b a positive blog writer.

  2. MILITARYMAN
    MILITARYMAN November 19, 2009 at 1:11 am |

    Readers,

    This article has no truth, these are all assumptions.Pakistan Military only seeks interest whatever is in the best interest of Pakistan.

    In fact,the main agenda of the meeting with Gen. Petraus is to bring terrorists on land, and keep them away from hiding in the mountains, so it will be easier to target them.

    Meeting with John Kerry was simply a check and balance who holds more power PINDI or ISLAMABAD, and this fiasco started with KLB.

    Thank You

  3. Aamir
    Aamir November 19, 2009 at 3:54 am |

    his is a blog that only publishes articles that support its cause of maligning and defaming the Pakistan Army and ISI…critical articles with less strength are allowed. My article,written yesterday, is not on it…..Such is the bias of the operator of this blog….a paid journalist

  4. Sultan
    Sultan November 19, 2009 at 8:27 am |

    Aamir I fully agree with you. I wrote few paragraphs as my comments in favor of Pakistan on 18th November 2009. I tried to show a ray of hope to the people of Pakistan. I tried to show the actual face, intentions and motives of these bloggers. My paragraphs have not been published yet. Mr. Malick how much money you want for writing some positive remarks about our country. Believe me it is a beautiful country with beautiful, loving and patriotic people. We will give last drop of our blood to save our country. We will not allow such ill will mongers like you, Mr. Malick, to harm our beautiful country.

  5. sajid
    sajid November 19, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    @Pakistani:

    So you are pro-politicians, basically.If so, please stop maligning the Army .. simply say that you want the corruption of these stupid politicians to be ignored, or at-least to put their cases on back burner.And please note that Army is not supposed to answer the nation, because they are not ‘elected’ by the nation. Its the politicians who are answerable before the nation, as they use to beg for votes from public… and above all, Generals are far more credible than politicians. They are more educated than the stupid politicians, they are more loyal to the country than the politicians, and they bring their life into danger .. that makes them incomparable from the ineligible politicians.

  6. Nargis
    Nargis November 19, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    i don’t think this is moderated. if you want to get published don’t use curse words and url

  7. khan
    khan November 19, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    is n’t it a propaganda campaign agaisnt army. as writer writes that anchors were told that thet they should keep their mouth shut. to me it is also quite possible that there are people who are told to write like this.
    pak army is a professional army and i have not only the trust but the belif also that they will compromise national interst. dont quote the history ,those were the choice of those democratically elected people. if they had left it to the properprocdure such situation would not have risen

  8. Zain
    Zain November 19, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    @ Amir, Sultan, Sajid, Khan, BABA IBR MAD and Military Man

    I agree with you guys; this article is more about military bashing than anything else. As I have said in y previous comments, the military has interfered in politics. Yes, but it has done so because there is a vacuum of real civilian leaders. Every time the military has come in it has done so because of a corrupt civilian leader. Benazir’s second government was a prime example!

    They keep crying about democracy. Well, yeh, why don’t they begin democracy at the grassroots and hold party elections. Most of the parties simply won’t. they want to be lifetime corrupt leaders that plunder and loot this country, and then, when the military takes over with its usual and undeniable might, they blame everything on them.

    Although I personally think that democracy is an utter failure itself, but if u want it, please implement it the way it should be. You cannot say it’s democracy when you have civilian dictators!

  9. zaheer gorsi
    zaheer gorsi November 19, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    @Pakistani: I cant understand why some people here are defending the millitary. Could they name a single act of sacrifice on behalf of our generals in 62 years of our history? Are we really sure that generals are better educated than politicians? And who is there to judge that generals are more pariotic than politicians?

    To all those aligned with millitary, just let us know what prompted you to back off from KLB bashing rather than to dwell in the question of who is worse between politicians and army.

  10. Pakistani
    Pakistani November 20, 2009 at 12:57 am |

    Yeh Malick Qadiyani hai, anti Islam and Anti Pakistani.
    Is k columns nahee perho
    yeh behn chod saala haaraami kutta hai

  11. BABA IBR MAD
    BABA IBR MAD November 20, 2009 at 2:14 am |

    Mr. malik in your kind attention it is requested that i wanna say you with lots of many other as please ‘SHUT YOUR FOOLISH MOUTH’.

    Best Fraud,

    Men at ur home

  12. Zain
    Zain November 20, 2009 at 3:07 am |

    @ zaheer gorsi

    regarding who is more educated, politicians or military generals, you just need to see how they speak….look at our current prime minister who pronounces sovereignty as ‘saavrainty’. articles about this have appeared in teh Dawn newspaper too, buthe still has not gotten this word right.
    and our president doesn’t even have a verifiable degree. need we say more.

    but the level of education is not really the issue; the issue is that we expect more from civilians. they keep making tall promises and land us in an even bigger crisis than we were in before…..

  13. Subhan Allah
    Subhan Allah November 20, 2009 at 5:04 am |

    No institution dominates Pakistan like its army. The armed forces account for 30% of Pakistan’s national budget, totalling $5bn last year according to official statistics. But the actual figure, already staggering for a country with high levels of illiteracy and malnutrition, is likely to be much higher. The army has been practically unaccountable since the very foundation of the country – last year’s figures were the first it has publicly released since 1965.

    Every one of Pakistan’s democratically-elected civilian leaders has been forced to abdicate by the army. A general has directly ruled the country for 34 of its 62 years of existence.

    The army’s power is such that although Pakistan’s private media have a commendable record of criticising the country’s civilian politicians, criticism of the men in uniform is rare – save during periods of crisis under direct military rule, like the dismissal of the chief justice in 2007.

    There grip is so tight that when some expresses dissatisfaction with army there are immediately shut down.

  14. Subhan Allah
    Subhan Allah November 20, 2009 at 5:09 am |

    Partial list of kickbacks received by generals, air marshals and admirals. This is dated and I am going to add more soon:

    1- Air Chief Marshal Abbas Khattak (retired) received Rs180 million as kickbacks in the purchase of 40 old Mirage fighters.

    2- Air Chief Marshal Farooq Feroz Khan was suspected of receiving a 5 per cent commission in the purchase of 40 F-7 planes worth $271 million.

    3- In 1996, the Pakistan Army bought 1,047 GS-90 Jeeps at a cost of $20,889 per unit. The market value of the vehicle then was only $13,000.
    4- According to the National Accountability Bureau, some senior army officers made Rs 510 million in the deal.

    5- One hundred and eleven army men got 400 plots in Bahawalpur and Rahimyar Khan districts at throwaway prices –Rs 47.50 per kanal (1/8th of an acre) as against the market rate of Rs15,000-20,000. Six respondents got 400 kanals in Punjab, while former NAB chairman Lt Gen Mohammad Amjad was allotted a two-kanal plot on Sarwar Road in Lahore for just Rs 8,00,000, payable in instalments over 20 years. The market value of this plot was Rs 2 crore.

    6- Gen Pervez Musharraf acquired a commercial plot worth Rs 2 crore at the Defence Housing Authority in Lahore for just Rs 1,00,000, payable in 20 years. “As mentioned in the report of defence services director-general, a loss of Rs 5 billion was incurred due to such allotments,” the petition says.

    7- The army awarded a contract for the purchase of 1,000 Hino trucks at $40,000 a unit when the local Gandhara Industries had offered trucks of the same specification for $25,000 a piece.

    8- In the purchase of 3,000 Land Rovers in 1995, army officials allegedly received around Rs20,00,000 as kickbacks.

    9- The army management at the Water and Power Development Authority purchased electric meters at Rs 1,050 a piece against the market price of Rs 456, causing a loss of Rs 165 crore to the national exchequer.

    10- A former military regime sold the Pak-Saudi Fertilizers for Rs 700 crore and earned a Rs 200 crore commission on the deal.

    11- In 1996, the Pakistan Navy spent Rs 1.3 crore on installing air-conditioners at the Islamabad Golf Club without any justification.

    12- Gen Pervez Musharaf got $18 million in kicbacks from the US defense contractor (KLB logistics) in 2007

  15. Zain
    Zain November 20, 2009 at 5:16 am |

    WOW! nice job copy-pasting! That’s plagiarism! At least you could have added the source of all this matter.

    Anyway, much of it is true, but if u want to malign the military, there is an even longer list of dirty laundry of civilian leaders that anyone could come up with.

    And to those who say the army has been traitor, well, what stopped them from selling the country. they could have done that long ago.

    yes, they all make money. don’t we all do that.

    But why does the military keep bouncing back???? it’s simple: the civilian leaders always give them the opportunity.

  16. Subhan Allah
    Subhan Allah November 20, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    @Zain
    Thanks for keeping me honest. Yes it is copy from what was submitted to the Pakistan’s Supreme court. I am glad you agree that most of it is true. And, this is just some that we know—- list is much longer.

    My point is that Pak Army has controlled country too long on the excuse of civilian imcompetency and corruption.They are not incompetent (lost all the wars), influenced bad foreign policy, and they are also CORRUPT.

    Why would I trsut them more than Nawaz Sharif? or Imran Khan? or Altaf Hussain? or anyone else ..

  17. hussain
    hussain November 20, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    A reporter or an anchor person views does not mean that he is right. We need to take care of our nation. We should ask ourselves how much we are honest to this nation. Do not balme Army or politician. There are good and bad people in both place Army and civil but we are confident that none of these category (bad or good) are unfair with their country. Everybody has to play their own part, Army at their own place and politician at their own and public at thier own. None should enter in to the shoes of others. We do not want our proffissional army to involve in politics and civil issues just we the civilain can interfer in the army’s matter. Let this process continue and people shold particiapte in building the nation. Let the good politician come out in the next spurt. I am sure and confident that there is a man who is waiting for the right time and we shall see inshallah there will be a revolution in Pakistan.
    Pakistan has been gifted by Allah to the muslim of subcontinent and whenever Allah reward a gift never take back but keep care of it.

    Pakistan Zindabad.

  18. Asad Tariq
    Asad Tariq November 20, 2009 at 11:34 pm |

    ASAD: THIS ATICLE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PEICE OF A SHIT!

    THE AUTHOR DOESNOT EVEN KNOW THE FULL NAME OF GEN> KAYANI ….!

    ITS GEN. ASHFAQ PERVAIZ KAYANI…. NOT GEN. ASHRAF!

    ty

  19. Zain
    Zain November 21, 2009 at 4:42 am |

    read the Kerry Lugar bill at :
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-3642

    If you are educated enough, you can read and clearly understand why this bill caused such a stir. Forget the military objecting to it; I think any Pakistani can see what is being implied by telling us what we should and should not do. The very nature of this bill aims at telling us what to do with places like FATA and Quetta. So, those are arguing about who wanted it signed or didn’t want it side is like side stepping the main bone of contention. Please read and understand this bill, and then see who wanted it signed.

  20. Yasir
    Yasir November 22, 2009 at 6:13 am |

    I wish all those who are supporting our army had experience to have one single business deal with them. They all will know how corrupt they are everybody opening there mouth for some thing. Who supported Musharaf or let it be this way Who was Musharraf!!. Army. Now they say they are sacrificing for the country My — .Its all game to put more dollars in their pockets. Eats 80% of country resources. Let them build themselves golf clubs polo grounds arenas with that percentage and have the people live miserable life no food poor education, no basic health plans. What favor goes to a poor man from Pakistan expect the CNIC which u also have to pay.

  21. Zain
    Zain November 22, 2009 at 6:18 am |

    yeh, try starting any major business under MR 110% and see what happens. It’s no wonder he has that name ….

  22. Yasir
    Yasir November 22, 2009 at 6:41 am |

    well at least he wont screw the nation in the name of defence security shahadat protection.

  23. Zain
    Zain November 23, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    @ Yasir what kind of consolation is that???

    moreover, considering his reputation, and the fact that the nation believes he is a criminal [murderer], he has little credibility. The man [if he deserves to be called that] is a standing joke! It’s no wonder the nation now passes text message jokes about him. And so small is this civilian leader’s character that he even threatens to take action against those who joke about him. So much for the freedom of speech! democracy! lolzzz

  24. Zain
    Zain November 23, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    Crisis after crisis: look at what the civilian leaders have done this time. The government is weak, and the opposition is useless. Even the long March seems to have become a wasted: this government disobeys the supreme court too. from the fuel price hike to the sugar crisis. and it is now well known that 90% of the sugar mills are owned by the politicians who sit in the government and opposition. Amid a never ending list of corruption, these are just a significant few. Pathetic civilian leadership!

  25. Zain
    Zain November 25, 2009 at 4:40 am |

    it is now quite obvious that either this page fails to pass new entries to us or this feature has been deliberately disabled. No surprises here.

    anyway, here is one more reason why the civilian leadership sux!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBaBKb1jYg

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  28. J.Lat
    J.Lat March 27, 2010 at 10:52 am |

    It may sound like the kind of bogus claim made on late-night infomercials, but trust me when I say it’s true: What I call barbaric, annoying scrubs gobble up KLB’s anti-democratic, vicious reports like golden morsels of Jacobinism. For complete details, I refer you to my forthcoming book on the subject. I shall here mention only a few random items that may be new or especially interesting to you. For instance, KLB’s followers contend that closed-minded perjurers and soporific knuckleheads should rule this country. This is precisely the non-equation that KLB is trying to patch together. What it’s missing, as usual, is that it can push me only so far and no farther. This is not what I think; this is what I know. I additionally know that my goal is to get KLB to realize that this will become even more obvious in the years just ahead. Of course, if it insists on remaining an ignorant, uninformed, and ill-informed tosser, that’s its prerogative.

    KLB’s cat’s-paws are too lazy to turn random, senseless violence into meaningful action. They just want to sit back, fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that if you want truth, you have to struggle for it. This letter represents my struggle, my attempt at commenting on KLB’s effusions. It is also my soapbox for informing the community at large that documents written by KLB’s henchmen typically include the line, “Anyone who dares to stand uncompromised in a world that’s on the brink of KLB-induced disaster can expect to suffer hair loss and tooth decay as a result”, in large, 30-point type, as if the size of the font gives weight to the words. In reality, all that that fancy formatting really does is underscore the fact that KLB believes that we can stop Pyrrhonism merely by permitting government officials entrée into private homes to search for fatuous, indelicate champions of deceit, lies, theft, plunder, and rapine. The real damage that this belief causes actually has nothing to do with the belief itself but with psychology, human nature, and the skillful psychological manipulation of that nature by KLB and its lubricious operatives. We don’t have to stand for this! If it is not yet clear that we’re still a long way from being able to make KLB answer for its wrongdoings, then consider that my purpose here is not to stop the Huns at the gate. Well, okay, it is. But I should point out that its idolators are unified under a common goal. That goal is to pit race against race, religion against religion, and country against country.

    If we rage, rage against the dying of the light then the sea of totalitarianism, on which KLB so heavily relies, will begin to dry up. KLB may be sincere, but it is also sincerely overweening. Diabolic mendicants make a fetish of the virtues of vainglorious faddism. That said, we mustn’t lose sight of who the real enemy is: KLB and its brain-damaged compeers. Unlike KLB, when I make a mistake I’m willing to admit it. Consequently, if—and I’m bending over backwards to maintain the illusion of “innocent until proven guilty”—it were not actually responsible for trying to convert houses of worship into houses of resistentialism, then I’d stop saying that I don’t know if KLB is consciously and purposely evil or merely batty. I do know, however, that most members of our quick-fix, sugar-rush, attention-deficit society are too impatient to realize the importance of mentioning a bit about meddlesome bottom-feeders such as KLB. I wish only that a few more people could see that KLB used to complain about being persecuted. Now it is our primary persecutor. This reversal of roles reminds me that now that I’ve been exposed to KLB’s antics I must admit that I don’t completely understand them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps there’s something fishy about KLB’s viewpoints. I think it’s up to something, something reckless and perhaps even disagreeable. While this letter hasn’t provided anything in the way of a concrete plan of action, it may help us focus our thinking a little better when we do work out a plan. For now, we must advance freedom in countries strangled by tyranny. I, speaking as someone who is not a mean-spirited malcontent, will really be happy to have your help in this endeavor.

  29. Arun
    Arun October 9, 2010 at 1:49 pm |

    People of Pakistan are driven by a fear psychosis and Army knows how to capitalize on that and play the fate of the whole nation to milk America.
    Its is just plain sad.

    If you think using extremism(taliban/al qaida) both as a stick as well a carrot is going to work out for ever. YOU ARE WRONG

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