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		<title>By: kashif</title>
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		<description>EXCLUSIVE!!

PAKISTANI INVENTOR OF SHRIMP PROCESSING MACHINE PAKISTANI PATENT NO. 128359 OF 1983

”# Category:Pakistani inventions – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mazhar Butt, Patented (Pakistan Patent Office ,1983) Inventor of a Shrimp Processing Machine Mazhar Butt, Patented (Pakistan Patent Office ,1983) Inventor …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pakis…”
Pakistan Patent No. 128359</description>
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<p>PAKISTANI INVENTOR OF SHRIMP PROCESSING MACHINE PAKISTANI PATENT NO. 128359 OF 1983</p>
<p>”# Category:Pakistani inventions – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br />
Mazhar Butt, Patented (Pakistan Patent Office ,1983) Inventor of a Shrimp Processing Machine Mazhar Butt, Patented (Pakistan Patent Office ,1983) Inventor …<br />
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pakis…”<br />
Pakistan Patent No. 128359</p>
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		<title>By: aman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the reactions voices against secularism in Pakistan stems out from
the fact that Pakistanis need an identity .Punjabis,Sindhis&amp;Balochis and others have distintictive identities based on languages/customs and religion can only hold them together.The propogated logic for enforcing morality and social order dependence on religion in public and personal life is a must,defies logic.Over reliance on religion only pushes a state/race towards dogmatism,intolerence,fundamentalism and umpteen no. of social evils.Please look at China and Japan which are far more developed &amp; progressive countries where existence of religion or any religious customs are hardly visible.Secularism bring peace and tolerence to other religions and that is why Japan,Srilanka ,Thailand &amp; Burma(although, Buddhist majority countries)did not witness public outrage and carnage  after demolition of century-old Bamian Buddha statue in Afganistan by Taliban.What would have been the reaction of Muslim world had if any their sacred and revered mosque met the same fate at the hands of non-muslims.
So, my appeal to Pakistani friends especially, the younger generation,please get rid of the illusion of religion, and put your effort to develop your country and decide your own destiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the reactions voices against secularism in Pakistan stems out from<br />
the fact that Pakistanis need an identity .Punjabis,Sindhis&amp;Balochis and others have distintictive identities based on languages/customs and religion can only hold them together.The propogated logic for enforcing morality and social order dependence on religion in public and personal life is a must,defies logic.Over reliance on religion only pushes a state/race towards dogmatism,intolerence,fundamentalism and umpteen no. of social evils.Please look at China and Japan which are far more developed &amp; progressive countries where existence of religion or any religious customs are hardly visible.Secularism bring peace and tolerence to other religions and that is why Japan,Srilanka ,Thailand &amp; Burma(although, Buddhist majority countries)did not witness public outrage and carnage  after demolition of century-old Bamian Buddha statue in Afganistan by Taliban.What would have been the reaction of Muslim world had if any their sacred and revered mosque met the same fate at the hands of non-muslims.<br />
So, my appeal to Pakistani friends especially, the younger generation,please get rid of the illusion of religion, and put your effort to develop your country and decide your own destiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Ameeratron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ameeratron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read through about half of the comments - enough to see that the majority of people commenting disagree with the sentiments. I fail to understand why Pakistani&#039;s are so insecure when it comes to religion. Secularism isn&#039;t atheism, but is the separation of church and state. If Pakistan keeps religion and state separate, the country wouldn&#039;t be in such a state of crap. There wouldn&#039;t be so much injustice towards people of other faiths (many schools in Pakistan refuse to admit Christian students) and people would live together in harmony (as Jinnah wanted Pakistan to be). This has nothing to do with being &#039;ultra westernised&#039; - it&#039;s more along the lines of being more enlightened. If you think that Pakistan is a fair place to live in today, just ask any minority in this country about the excessive amounts of prejudice that takes place on a daily basis. Ahmadis are killed, Sufi shrines are destroyed, Christians and Parsis are shunned and looked down upon. This isn&#039;t what Pakistan was meant to be. It was Pakistan&#039;s obsession with Islam that created the Taliban (along with Americas involvement). Most of the Taliban were by products of Pakistani Madrassas, which should never have been built in the first place. All the terrorism we are witnessing now are the fruits of our own labour. Before we decline even deeper, it&#039;s time to change - and ensure that our future generations are free of this deep-rooted religious intolerance.

Live and let live - that&#039;s my ideology. Never impose your religious views on others.

I apologize for my lack of coherence. I&#039;m usually asleep at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through about half of the comments &#8211; enough to see that the majority of people commenting disagree with the sentiments. I fail to understand why Pakistani&#8217;s are so insecure when it comes to religion. Secularism isn&#8217;t atheism, but is the separation of church and state. If Pakistan keeps religion and state separate, the country wouldn&#8217;t be in such a state of crap. There wouldn&#8217;t be so much injustice towards people of other faiths (many schools in Pakistan refuse to admit Christian students) and people would live together in harmony (as Jinnah wanted Pakistan to be). This has nothing to do with being &#8216;ultra westernised&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s more along the lines of being more enlightened. If you think that Pakistan is a fair place to live in today, just ask any minority in this country about the excessive amounts of prejudice that takes place on a daily basis. Ahmadis are killed, Sufi shrines are destroyed, Christians and Parsis are shunned and looked down upon. This isn&#8217;t what Pakistan was meant to be. It was Pakistan&#8217;s obsession with Islam that created the Taliban (along with Americas involvement). Most of the Taliban were by products of Pakistani Madrassas, which should never have been built in the first place. All the terrorism we are witnessing now are the fruits of our own labour. Before we decline even deeper, it&#8217;s time to change &#8211; and ensure that our future generations are free of this deep-rooted religious intolerance.</p>
<p>Live and let live &#8211; that&#8217;s my ideology. Never impose your religious views on others.</p>
<p>I apologize for my lack of coherence. I&#8217;m usually asleep at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: sohail</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 19:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Malik, it is our badluck we having &quot;KHOOOTEY SIKAY&quot; since the day Pakistan was created by Allah.  Quaid-e-Azam&#039;s vision is not hidden, nor the aim to crate an independent Muslim State.  Khootey Sikay like you always try to misguide the ignorant people to walk on your Dajjali Path. You yourself know that you misinterpreted the quaid&#039;s saying.  Will you live forever? Will you never Stand on the Day of Judgment?  by writing this article to whom you are showing your loyalty? 

“The prosperity and advancement of a nation depend upon its intelligentsia, and Muslim India is looking forward to her young generation and education classes to give a bold lead for our guidance and a brilliant record of histrorical achievements and traditions. Islam expect every Muslim to do this duty, and if we realise our responsibility time will come soon when we shall justify ourselves worthy of a glorious past.”
December 24, 1940

“We should have a State in which we could live and breathe as free men and which we could develop according to our own lights and culture and where principles of Islamic social justice could find free play.”
Address to Civil, Naval, Military and Air Force Officers of Pakistan Government, Karachi
October 11, 1947

“You have to stand guard over the development and maintenance of Islamic democracy, Islamic social justice  and the equality of manhood in your own native soil. With faith, discipline and selfless devotion to duty, there is nothing worthwhile that you cannot achieve.”
Address to the officers and men of the 5th Heavy Ack Ack and 6th Light Ack Ack Regiments in Malir, Karachi
February 21, 1948

    “We must work our destiny in our own way and present to the world an economic system based on true Islamic concept of equality of manhood and social justice. We will thereby be fulfilling our mission as Muslims and giving to humanity the message of peace which alone can save it and secure the welfare, happiness and prosperity of mankind”
Speech at the opening ceremony of State Bank of Pakistan, Karachi
July 1, 1948 

People like you will keep coming and get defeated by the historical facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Malik, it is our badluck we having &#8220;KHOOOTEY SIKAY&#8221; since the day Pakistan was created by Allah.  Quaid-e-Azam&#8217;s vision is not hidden, nor the aim to crate an independent Muslim State.  Khootey Sikay like you always try to misguide the ignorant people to walk on your Dajjali Path. You yourself know that you misinterpreted the quaid&#8217;s saying.  Will you live forever? Will you never Stand on the Day of Judgment?  by writing this article to whom you are showing your loyalty? </p>
<p>“The prosperity and advancement of a nation depend upon its intelligentsia, and Muslim India is looking forward to her young generation and education classes to give a bold lead for our guidance and a brilliant record of histrorical achievements and traditions. Islam expect every Muslim to do this duty, and if we realise our responsibility time will come soon when we shall justify ourselves worthy of a glorious past.”<br />
December 24, 1940</p>
<p>“We should have a State in which we could live and breathe as free men and which we could develop according to our own lights and culture and where principles of Islamic social justice could find free play.”<br />
Address to Civil, Naval, Military and Air Force Officers of Pakistan Government, Karachi<br />
October 11, 1947</p>
<p>“You have to stand guard over the development and maintenance of Islamic democracy, Islamic social justice  and the equality of manhood in your own native soil. With faith, discipline and selfless devotion to duty, there is nothing worthwhile that you cannot achieve.”<br />
Address to the officers and men of the 5th Heavy Ack Ack and 6th Light Ack Ack Regiments in Malir, Karachi<br />
February 21, 1948</p>
<p>    “We must work our destiny in our own way and present to the world an economic system based on true Islamic concept of equality of manhood and social justice. We will thereby be fulfilling our mission as Muslims and giving to humanity the message of peace which alone can save it and secure the welfare, happiness and prosperity of mankind”<br />
Speech at the opening ceremony of State Bank of Pakistan, Karachi<br />
July 1, 1948 </p>
<p>People like you will keep coming and get defeated by the historical facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Khalid Bin Waleed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khalid Bin Waleed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 00:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say no to Secularisim (Elhaad), be a pure and fundamental muslim. May Allah forgive us, and give hidayat to secular muslims!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say no to Secularisim (Elhaad), be a pure and fundamental muslim. May Allah forgive us, and give hidayat to secular muslims!</p>
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		<title>By: J.Lat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I am about to say is strictly off the record. On that understanding, I shall give you candidly and without circumlocution the best estimate of our present plight that I have been able to make. Here&#039;s how this letter works: I&#039;ll offer ideas and a theory to explain things. You bring your own experiences to bear on the matter of Secular Pakistan&#039;s debauched accusations, supplementing them where necessary with information from this letter. Together we will comment on Secular Pakistan&#039;s expostulations. 

As the adherents of Randian objectivism believe, Secular Pakistan&#039;s stances are so horny, so garrulous, so inane that there are really no earth words to describe exactly how I feel about them. Furthermore, as the adherents of empiricism observe, Secular Pakistan wants us to think of it as a do-gooder. Keep in mind, though, that it wants to &quot;do good&quot; with other people&#039;s money and often with other people&#039;s lives. If Secular Pakistan really wanted to be a do-gooder, it could start by admitting that its desire to repeat the mistakes of the past is the chief sign that it&#039;s an untoward loan shark. (The second sign is that Secular Pakistan feels obliged to operate on a criminal—as opposed to a civil disobedience—basis.) 

Given Secular Pakistan&#039;s current mind-set, the best thing about Secular Pakistan is the way that it encourages us to name and shame its admirers for their hidebound acts of commercialism. No, wait; Secular Pakistan doesn&#039;t encourage that. On the contrary, it discourages us from admitting that if it manages to court a prurient minority of the most presumptuous scalawags you&#039;ll ever see, civilization will crumble almost immediately. Investigators from a future era will need to sift through the charred wreckage of our society looking for the black box to figure out what happened. Maybe they&#039;ll even discover that I want nothing more—or less—than to let Secular Pakistan know, in no uncertain terms, that it is guided by the ignis fatuus of racialism. To that task I have consecrated my life and I invite you to do likewise. To pick an obvious but often overlooked example, for Secular Pakistan&#039;s neo-bumptious plans to succeed, it needs to dumb down our society. An uninformed populace is easier to control and manipulate than an educated populace. In the immediate years ahead, schoolchildren will stop being required to learn the meanings of words like &quot;incomprehensibility&quot; and &quot;mediterraneanization&quot;. They will be incapable of comprehending that Secular Pakistan obsesses not with what it can do for this country but with what it can extract from it. There&#039;s nothing controversial about that view. It&#039;s a fact, pure and simple. It was a fact long before anyone realized that Secular Pakistan has got to go—and yesterday isn&#039;t soon enough. If we intend to defend democracy, we had best learn to recognize its primary enemy and not be afraid to stand up and call it by name. That name is Secular Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I am about to say is strictly off the record. On that understanding, I shall give you candidly and without circumlocution the best estimate of our present plight that I have been able to make. Here&#8217;s how this letter works: I&#8217;ll offer ideas and a theory to explain things. You bring your own experiences to bear on the matter of Secular Pakistan&#8217;s debauched accusations, supplementing them where necessary with information from this letter. Together we will comment on Secular Pakistan&#8217;s expostulations. </p>
<p>As the adherents of Randian objectivism believe, Secular Pakistan&#8217;s stances are so horny, so garrulous, so inane that there are really no earth words to describe exactly how I feel about them. Furthermore, as the adherents of empiricism observe, Secular Pakistan wants us to think of it as a do-gooder. Keep in mind, though, that it wants to &#8220;do good&#8221; with other people&#8217;s money and often with other people&#8217;s lives. If Secular Pakistan really wanted to be a do-gooder, it could start by admitting that its desire to repeat the mistakes of the past is the chief sign that it&#8217;s an untoward loan shark. (The second sign is that Secular Pakistan feels obliged to operate on a criminal—as opposed to a civil disobedience—basis.) </p>
<p>Given Secular Pakistan&#8217;s current mind-set, the best thing about Secular Pakistan is the way that it encourages us to name and shame its admirers for their hidebound acts of commercialism. No, wait; Secular Pakistan doesn&#8217;t encourage that. On the contrary, it discourages us from admitting that if it manages to court a prurient minority of the most presumptuous scalawags you&#8217;ll ever see, civilization will crumble almost immediately. Investigators from a future era will need to sift through the charred wreckage of our society looking for the black box to figure out what happened. Maybe they&#8217;ll even discover that I want nothing more—or less—than to let Secular Pakistan know, in no uncertain terms, that it is guided by the ignis fatuus of racialism. To that task I have consecrated my life and I invite you to do likewise. To pick an obvious but often overlooked example, for Secular Pakistan&#8217;s neo-bumptious plans to succeed, it needs to dumb down our society. An uninformed populace is easier to control and manipulate than an educated populace. In the immediate years ahead, schoolchildren will stop being required to learn the meanings of words like &#8220;incomprehensibility&#8221; and &#8220;mediterraneanization&#8221;. They will be incapable of comprehending that Secular Pakistan obsesses not with what it can do for this country but with what it can extract from it. There&#8217;s nothing controversial about that view. It&#8217;s a fact, pure and simple. It was a fact long before anyone realized that Secular Pakistan has got to go—and yesterday isn&#8217;t soon enough. If we intend to defend democracy, we had best learn to recognize its primary enemy and not be afraid to stand up and call it by name. That name is Secular Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things are true of Pakistan.

Its President should be a Muslim and 40+ age.
A Hindu nation could brake an Islamic country.

I feel sad for Qaid, the country he founded broke, and his daughter married a non-muslim (a converted Christian).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things are true of Pakistan.</p>
<p>Its President should be a Muslim and 40+ age.<br />
A Hindu nation could brake an Islamic country.</p>
<p>I feel sad for Qaid, the country he founded broke, and his daughter married a non-muslim (a converted Christian).</p>
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		<title>By: Asad Ullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asad Ullah</dc:creator>
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		<description>This blog is for promoting Anti-Islamization in Islamic Capsul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog is for promoting Anti-Islamization in Islamic Capsul.</p>
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		<title>By: Ummar Khilji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ummar Khilji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salams to everyone;

Totally agree with the author, Pakistan was made for the muslims in general and minority non-muslims also. A place where people of all faiths and creeds practice their religious obligations w/o any force and restrictions. It was not made just for these so called religious extremists and fundamentalist zealots only but all types of muslims of different sects and casts and beliefs. So all you fundamentals stay away from our peaceful land and remain in your maddarashs and mosques. And if you try to conquer our land by force as it is some fundamental party&#039;s credo here then know this....
moderate and peaceful ppl of pakistan in general who are in majority are brave and smart and will wage a total war on such nonsense zealots terror.

Regards.

Ummar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salams to everyone;</p>
<p>Totally agree with the author, Pakistan was made for the muslims in general and minority non-muslims also. A place where people of all faiths and creeds practice their religious obligations w/o any force and restrictions. It was not made just for these so called religious extremists and fundamentalist zealots only but all types of muslims of different sects and casts and beliefs. So all you fundamentals stay away from our peaceful land and remain in your maddarashs and mosques. And if you try to conquer our land by force as it is some fundamental party&#8217;s credo here then know this&#8230;.<br />
moderate and peaceful ppl of pakistan in general who are in majority are brave and smart and will wage a total war on such nonsense zealots terror.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
<p>Ummar.</p>
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		<title>By: saleem</title>
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		<description>Secular Pakistan---what a joke! Foundation of Pakistan is a fraud perpetrated by some Muslims who favored it by emphasizing the need for a piece of land to have an Islamic nation separate from the majority of the Hindu population.Once they got the land, instead of enforcing Sharia (which should have been the aim) they started writing the &quot;constitution&quot;! My question to these traitors is: What is the difference in having a &quot;constitution&quot; of Pakistan and a &quot;constitution&quot; of India? This duplicity is the curse under which Pakistan was born.To top it they never gave up their ethnic loyalties and divided themselves along those lines (Punjabi,Sindhi,Pathan,Muhajir etc), instead of uniting as Muslims under Islam and enforcing Sharia.Indian Muslims who were stupid enough to fall in this trap and who migrated to this so called Pakistan are now Muhajirs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secular Pakistan&#8212;what a joke! Foundation of Pakistan is a fraud perpetrated by some Muslims who favored it by emphasizing the need for a piece of land to have an Islamic nation separate from the majority of the Hindu population.Once they got the land, instead of enforcing Sharia (which should have been the aim) they started writing the &#8220;constitution&#8221;! My question to these traitors is: What is the difference in having a &#8220;constitution&#8221; of Pakistan and a &#8220;constitution&#8221; of India? This duplicity is the curse under which Pakistan was born.To top it they never gave up their ethnic loyalties and divided themselves along those lines (Punjabi,Sindhi,Pathan,Muhajir etc), instead of uniting as Muslims under Islam and enforcing Sharia.Indian Muslims who were stupid enough to fall in this trap and who migrated to this so called Pakistan are now Muhajirs!</p>
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