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  1. Shahzad
    Shahzad December 8, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    Related to Above,

    This massacre by the irani “mullah’s” secrect service militia “Basij” at the pro-democracy protest by peacful muslim persons on june 2009 in Iran…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWiSlVddLH8

    Here are a “few more people being killed” by the Ayatolah’s (Irani “Mullah’) Secret service militia men “BASIG” in the same protest after killing an innocent girl,……just for the sake of upholding that evil and BA***st* theocratic state…….all the above “commentators” of evil theoctratic state should be put to shame……

    I will do my best to uncover such EVIL Theocratic states’ real Ideoligy……

  2. farrukh
    farrukh December 9, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    The attempt to create a utopia on Earth has been tried countless times in history. If rarely achieved in practice, humanity’s imagination knows few bounds; the world’s folklore often recounts mythical tales of perfect societies, some that existed, others yet to be created. Amongst all the tales of Camelot, Shangri-La and Zion, lies the idea that a perfect, harmonious order can arise. These concepts exist for a reason; the greater mans apparent progress, the greater his problems seem to multiply. There is universal acknowledgment that every society in existence today is lacking in some way – all fall short, no matter how pristine the veneer of civilization. It seems there is a sense of longing for better days. And what is politics anyway, if not an attempt by certain idealistic souls to nudge a flawed society closer to a notion of perfection?

    A problem arises. The writer Thomas Fuller wrote, “A fool’s paradise is a wise man’s hell.” Utopia lies in the eye of the beholder and there is no universally acceptable version. For those unbelievers unconvinced by the notion of a spiritual nirvana, the model to be followed must chime with the alleged certainty of science. And so we witness a succession of ‘isms’ to that end: anarchism, socialism, Maoism, fascism, Marxism, libertarianism and countless others, each more ‘scientifically proven’ than the next. The only common points between these pseudo-scientific concoctions are first, they are all Western in origin, and second, in their conclusion: an idealistic society that runs in clockwork fashion, where all former wrongs and oppressions are righted and justice and harmony reign supreme.

    The problem is that in their methods these ideologies are all plagued by the same sense of moral relativism. With petty opinion supreme and divine law abandoned, there is no fixed, absolute sense of morality – the leaders alone decide what is right and wrong. Inevitably, the priority to do what is ‘right’ for society quickly mutates into doing what is ‘right’ for the leadership. The masses are soon forgotten, and the leaders quickly become self-absorbed and primarily interested in consolidating their own power. In the meantime, the masses are buried in an avalanche of political, social, spiritual and economic injustices. The propaganda may be ubiquitous, but as millions of souls rack up as ‘collateral damage’, the victims may fail to see the point.

    Of course, we never arrive at the perfected destination, but that was probably never the intent. For the cannier amongst us, we may realize that for the leaders of these movements, often the destination is only a fiction, just a mirage in the desert, never to be attained, always to be postponed. The conjured light at the end of the tunnel is only there for show, unreachable, but highly desirable, just enough to convince the long-suffering masses to take a few more steps. The copious flow of misinformation, half-truths and blatant truths spewed and echoed by our leaders and their shills constitute the script in this theatrical circus.

    Propaganda is powerful. Through artificially manufactured consent, and the sanctification of Westernization at the expense of our traditional values, we can be manipulated into willingly ceding control over our own future. Thus in spite of Western philosophies such as socialism, liberalism and democracy having had catastrophic effects on our society, we are continually brainwashed into thinking that this is what we really want. And in the end, in spite of all the vaunted claims, we remain continually stressed, constantly sacrificing, permanently anxious, until one by one, we shuffle off this mortal coil. The vast majority of us were never going to realize the dream.

    In faith lies a straighter path. In faith, the journey is the destination. In accordance with the commandments of The Almighty, one can immediately realize ones utopia – a state of contentment and satisfaction that no earthly force can shatter. For unlike the secular path, where materially, morally and spiritually, there is no peace of mind, here, if you seek to please God, He in His mercy, will please you. But this notion of utopia can transcend the individual and also encompass society and State. Islamic law provides a moral framework for State governance. It is not theoretical, hypothetical or pseudoscientific. Divinely inspired, it is a framework which if implemented with wisdom, can re-create the societal utopia last seen during the Golden Age of Muslim civilization. All it requires is the faith to make it happen.

    In that regard, we in Pakistan have been blessed beyond measure. Westerners abandoned faith a long time ago, but we still value our Islamic creed. However, these values seem to be slowly slipping away. We have wandered from the straight path and into darker territory, a ‘terra incognita’ that is the product of our own fevered minds. Today, we have joined the “random caravan without destination,” that Allama Iqbal once described Western civilization to be. Like the West, we now wander aimlessly and fruitlessly, buffeted by forces beyond our control or comprehension. But unlike the West, we are not destined for
    oblivion, but for glory. So before we follow the misguided off the edge of the proverbial cliff, we must come to our senses. We must correct our course. We must realize that our salvation
    does not lie in the limitations of the Occident.

    Shakespeare once wrote “This above all: to thine own self be true…” By forsaking truth, we have stripped ourselves of identity, purpose and direction. We have made ourselves helpless and vulnerable to internal and external threats. Perceiving that we can do nothing of ourselves, so despairing are we that many of us have given up the ghost of initiative. Many just sit idly, awaiting the Messiah. It is thought that only the sheer force of his personality will break our chains. Yet we delude ourselves. Not that he will not come – he surely will. But that he will bring us something we do not already have, a weapon or tactic that is lacking in our current arsenal.

    When our saviour arrives, he will not bring an iota of anything alien, nothing that we will not recognize. We already have the knowledge we need. The Messiah will only come to confirm and implement the law of the Holy Qur’an. Yes, the very same book that just now sits on a bookshelf near you. Except this time, its light will not be confined to within its pages and to the heart of its reader, but to all places where it has not yet reached. Its pages will be opened, and its light will spread, house by house, street by street, market by market, city by city, and country by country. It will not remain a prisoner to dusty shelves but will be liberated to the corridors of political power, the offices of state, and the courts of all the lands. Then the world will rejoice in utopia.

    In the meantime, this Muslim Camelot eludes us, and not because the Messiah has yet to arrive, but because we remain crippled by our own arrogance. Although we could achieve our Eden on Earth tomorrow if we wished it, we suffer from a mass delusion, a misguided belief that it is not beyond the wit of mere mortals to devise and regulate a system of law capable of solving our problems. We have placed our Islamic inheritance in cold storage while trying almost every Western ideological concoction, all to no avail. As a result, we have short-changed ourselves and postponed the new glorious dawn. By forsaking a divine gift, our strength has been sapped and our enemies emboldened. Once we commanded the world – now we are left begging to it on our knees. All the while, the answer to our problems was in front of our eyes. Let us now recognize ourselves as faithful servants of God by finally allowing His divine law to uplift us, as is its purpose. Regardless of stripe or sect, we are Muslims. Pakistan was founded as a Muslim majority state with Islam as its ideology. Let us now gently remind each other: “to thine own self be true…”

    * * * * *

    Why have we been conditioned into believing that Shariah is an obsolete aspect of Islam? Why are we told to treat this system of law with such contempt? Why are those who advocate it labelled obscurantist and fundamentalist? Reality check – without Shariah, there would have been no Muslim civilization, no Islamic Golden Age, no exquisite mosques in far flung
    corners of the world and no teeming masses standing in the ranks of Muslim brotherhood. Without Shariah, there would have been no House of Wisdom in Baghdad, no scientific heights in Muslim Spain and no glorious reign of Mughal dynasties in India. There would have been no heroic Ottoman exploits, no sprawling trade routes and no rich cultural marvels. Where would the world have been then? Let us remember that the malaise that affects the Muslim world today did not come to pass until relatively recently. For over a thousand years Muslim civilization prospered and flourished. The brutal dictatorships, autocratic monarchies and corrupt social democracies that plague us today did not exist. There was no tyranny or power-mongering, because under rule of- law governments, rulers a few hundred years ago were obliged by the law of Shariah to protect and preserve the legal
    rights of the people and to be clearly seen to be doing so. These rights, known as ‘huqooq-ul-ibaad’ or ‘the rights of man,’ had to be upheld by all rulers under the supervision of the scholarly classes and included basic natural entitlements such as the right to life, liberty, legal process and protection from State oppression and undue coercion. Any ruler that denied the people these rights would fall out of favour with the Ulema and his moral authority would be compromised. This lack of religious cover would then leave him wide open to challenges to his leadership. It was a stable yet flexible model that provided a useful balance of power and a check on unrestricted tyranny. The wide application of Shariah allowed for the administration and maintenance of justice for all. Even during times of political turmoil, when power transitions were often disorderly and violent, the scholars were agents of consistency and stability. Through the law, they upheld divine injunctions elaborated on in the Holy Qur’an and Sunnah of the Noble Prophet (peace be upon him). They delivered speedy and fair decisions on matters great and small and were instrumental in protecting property rights and the right to conduct one’s life and business as one pleased.

    There is no doubt that the Shariah and its scholars were absolutely essential to the outstanding success that Islamic civilization enjoyed from its inception into the 19th century.
    Whereas now religious teaching and instruction is maligned and ridiculed, back then it was seen as the ultimate career choice for aspiring youngsters. The Ulema of yesteryear were widely respected and admired in society. Today though, the Islamic jurists who once wielded so much influence have been replaced by a system of English Common law and the Shariah has been pushed to the extreme margins of our legal system. For decades, the villains, spoilers and chancers in power have been complicit in what seems a canny strategy inherited from the British.

    When the British toppled the last vestiges of the Mughal dynasty, Shariah law had been the first to go. The British found it unacceptable as it represented too great a symbol of independent freedom and justice – this being totally contrary to their policy of violent imperial subjugation. However, the British were clever enough to realize that it would be expedient to throw the subject peoples a few morsels here and there to give the impression of benevolence. To placate the Muslims who had lived with Islamic law for hundreds of years, the Raj kept the Shariah courts running but heavily restricted them to handling only minor family law cases. Using these courts as a valve for jettisoning the frustrations of the devout, they could then control and monitor the extent and reach of the Islamic opposition.

    The imperialists are long gone, but incredibly, today in Pakistan, Shariah courts still only administer family law – a tiny subset of their original historical jurisdiction. The ‘brown-sahib’ successors of the British performed beyond the wildest expectations of the old imperial motherland: the phrase, ‘more Catholic than the Pope,’ springs to mind. Whereas the constitution they created contains slogans that declare Shariah to be “the source of law,” if this were even slightly true, today we would not witness the astounding levels of injustices
    perpetrated on the innocent in our country. Now our shameful judges administer two laws – one for the rich and famous, and another for everyone else. Needless to say, the latter is far less permissive.

    It is an open conspiracy. To this day, preferring the ‘legal’ freedom to loot and pillage the nation at will, the judiciary and political elite cannot allow Shariah to gain ground, and so they marginalize it through propaganda and misinformation. In the media it is portrayed as reactionary and anachronistic, only defended by shouting, wild-eyes mullahs. We are told by the ultra-liberal media that the world has moved on and that we should adapt and get with the times. If ‘adapting’ means suffering under a morally, spiritually and socially bankrupt Western legal system, they can think again.

    One would not think it, but the Pakistani constitution claims that the State must govern, “…in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Qur’an and Sunnah…” This is ironic, since the final arbiters of the law, the Supreme Court justices, tend to be more knowledgeable about Latin legalese than the intricacies of Shariah. How it could be possible for Judges to ensure that the nations laws align with Shariah if they are not even schooled in it is not explained. What it does explain is the failure of this judicial system to even conform to common sense let alone administer justice to the people.

    On paper, on issues where Islamic law does not provide clear direction, our democratically chosen legislature is supposed to use its discretion to adopt laws informed by Islamic values. The so-called “repugnancy clause,” mandates that a judicial body (the Federal Shariat Court) can overturn any law repugnant to Islam. Thus in principle, the National Assembly can only pass legislation if it reflects the ‘spirit’ of Islamic law. The problem is that never mind controversial matters where there is no precedent or clarity, on matters where Shariah does provide a clear lead, it is ignored entirely.

    For example, irrespective of affiliation, can we all agree that interest based lending is illegal under Shariah? The Holy Qur’an is crystal clear and any Muslim of any stripe will agree. Yet
    regardless of the clear illegality, our apparently ‘Shariah infused’ legal system ironically condones the State Bank of Pakistan setting base interest rates as monetary policy which the Holy Qur’an tells us is akin to it declaring war on Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him). Why we would allow a legal system to preside over us that defies Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) in such a willful manner is a matter that is beyond my personal comprehension. But perhaps this is what happens when men are allowed to make up the rules in their own interest while using Islam as mere adornment.

    Shariah is permanent and absolute. There is no moral relativism involved. It is neither subject to ‘constitutional suspensions’ nor tolerant of ‘National Reconciliation Ordinances’. Properly implemented, it is not just a set of legal rules like any other. Being of divine origin, it is something far deeper and higher, infused with perfect moral and metaphysical purpose. At its very core, Shariah represents the concept of fairness, justice and equality that illuminates every aspect of the Islamic way of life. Inherent is the idea that all people, and all
    governments are subject to justice under the law. True Shariah applies to all, rulers and ruled, a notion that would be highly inconvenient to the current villains in power. And true enough, our leaders do not fear any vaunted Supreme Court justice as much as they fear the Shariah. Not surprising, as under a Shariah system they would be the first to be called to account. The status quo would lose everything if the penetrating light of divinely inspired law were ever to be shone in their guilty faces. Shariah is not a system of law that can be amended or distorted according to the whims and fashions of the time. No wonder they despise it.

    Many nay sayers argue that the Muslim world is too divided to even agree on what the Shariah is, but this is not true. There are only a tiny minority of issues that actually create controversy. Regardless of affiliation, all Muslims will agree, for example, that Shariah prohibits lending money at interest, consuming alcohol, paying or taking bribes, slandering the innocent, appropriating the property of others or bearing false witness. Even for liberal interpreters of the faith, these matters are not in dispute. Others argue that some punishments associated with Shariah seem harsh to their liberal sensibilities. Yet even if these punishments were as ‘unjust’ as they claim, they would pale in comparison to the sheer magnitude of the injustices currently suffered by many millions of our fellow citizens due to the vagaries of permissive Western law and its inadequate punishments.

    Ever since our leaders adopted Westernism root and branch, they now only pay lip service to the faith of our forefathers. Empty slogans and platitudes are the only thing on offer, ostensibly to placate the maulvis and mullahs. But the shoddy legal system they continue to defend is clearly broken. It is untenable, unworkable, and unconscionable – a national laughing stock rather than an institution worthy of respect. The people demand change. The Greek philosopher Heraclitus once said, “If it were not for injustice, men would not know justice.” Well by now, the Pakistani people have suffered enough injustice to know what justice looks like. For the masses, the return of Shariah is highly popular. They know it is the only way the feckless leaders who rule over us can be called to account for their evils.

    Our leaders have paramount responsibility to fulfill the divine injunction to “command the right and prohibit the wrong.” It is time for them to either realize their responsibilities or get out of the way. For far too long they have constructed a fluid moral universe around us where the goal posts of right and wrong are constantly being moved. There is no excuse for such travesties of justice. Can we not understand that a legal system that absolves the most heinous crimes for the sake of political expediency is worse than junk?

    A legal system that produces trash like the ‘National Reconciliation Ordinance’ is an affront to the dignity of the nation and a slap in the face of the millions who fought and died for it. This is just not good enough. We need to live by a higher law, a set of unchanging principles that order life in accordance with the will of God. Shariah is a law that applies equally to every person, great or small, ruler or ruled. No one can be above it and all are bound by it.

    As believers in “there is no God but Allah,” we must dispense with all the idols that take us away from His straight path. That means abolishing this rotten legal detritus the British left
    behind and which passes for a legal system, and establishing one in which Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) set the ground rules. Arrogance and willful rebellion led to the downfall of Satan. Is this the fate we want? Allah did not wrong Satan, he wronged himself. There is a lesson in that perhaps, for those who reflect.

    taken from Atif F Quereshi’s groundbreaking book “Pakistan Manifest Destiny’

  3. Sugato Mitra
    Sugato Mitra December 12, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    Good advice, but in all probability fallen on deaf ears. Pakistan is an Islamic country, no matter what the Pakistani Constitution says or Jinnah said. Tolerance of other religions is a much larger area. We across the border, don’t expect Pakistanis to be that sensitive. Let them at least protect the believers. Shias are routinely attacked and slain in Pakistan by Sunni Muslims. And the choice of venue is the Masjid at prayer times. Could anything be more anti Islamic than that? – bombing people to death when they are observing their religious rites? Ironically they belong to the same religion viz. Islam. The Pakistanis could not live together with the Bangladeshis. They slaughtered uncountable Bangladeshis and raped their women, because the Bangla speaking Bangladeshis rose in revolt at the imposition of Urdu language on them. Remember that Bangladesh is also a country with an overwhelming Muslim majority. Mohajirs in Pakistan are also attacked and killed in Pakistan. The bottomline is that Pakistanis will not tolerate anyone. So, your pleading for a secular Pakistan makes me chuckle, Mr. Malick. Secularism in Pakistan! My foot.

  4. umer
    umer December 21, 2009 at 2:34 am |

    haha, “secular Pakistan”, keep dreaming boy.

    Neither do we need these religious fanatics nor liberal fascists.

  5. Shahzad
    Shahzad December 22, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    Here is a little more videos about the evil menace of Fundmental evils called Taliban or even the iranis, i truly hate those persons who are called those so called extremist who live and support an evil version of Islam, if i were a commando man i would have given my whole heart against such persons included above:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRcvZFpJUU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXCDOA-NL_U&NR=1&feature=fvwp

  6. Shahzad
    Shahzad December 22, 2009 at 6:27 pm |

    Public killing by so called shariah idealistic devils. If these mullahs in Pakistan are also allowed to rampage than, here all this will also happen in the land of Peace…..:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6vMT7WGBAM&NR=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24LNQfIxbXI&feature=related

    http://www.rawa.org/murder-w.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZF9Zs9AYl8&NR=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dg1tMKY90c&feature=related

    http://asiapacific.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE230032002?open&of=ENG-370

    Just hope these mullahs of pak remain where they belong….

  7. Shahzad
    Shahzad December 22, 2009 at 6:44 pm |

    An innocent women Killed by those bastards police of Mullah in IRAN…….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDAbo7RQnQs

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Neda_Agha-Soltan

    ALL those evil supporters of the mental mullahs everywhere… I have only tis message to U ALL u must be insane also………

    ,,,,,,,,,bROTHERS oF pEAce uNUite,,,,

  8. Rox
    Rox December 24, 2009 at 7:33 am |

    @Farrukh
    Your views are outstanding why don’t you write comments on blog.dawn.com I would love to read your comments on various articles.

  9. Reza
    Reza December 24, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    Viewing the discussion between mr shahzad and mr farrukh, i have to side with mr shahzad’s views as they are logically more ground to reality and facts. Talibans as everyone knows is a great menace to the world and especially islam, i cant understand how sane muslims could even think of supporting such an ideologically corrupted groups as taliban.Its time that every moderate muslim who harbors and love the true essence of islam to unite against these extremely corrupted mullahs and their dominions.

  10. Moin-Ul-Atiq
    Moin-Ul-Atiq December 26, 2009 at 7:18 pm |

    Pakistan can NEVER be and should NOT be secular- secularism is against Islam and against Islamic way of life. Life should be based on shariah and we should try to emulate Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia- not loser India. We should ban music, movies, TV, internet, cell phone as this is the cause of our youth getting corrupted morally. A momin doesn’t need modern gadget at all.

  11. Dr Azmat Khan
    Dr Azmat Khan December 27, 2009 at 7:02 am |

    My opinion regarding the esteemed Mr Ibrahim S Maliks’s great insightful article is as follows:

    Statement:

    “Quranic statements are only a guidance of what is ideal and good. They cannot be regarded as
    ‘laws’ to be implemented by force or bloodshed.
    The word shariah itself means a way of life or a code of life and definitely not ‘laws’ of life.”

    Explanation:

    The main reason that the sayings of quran cannot and should not be regarded as a Law itself is because they are not. They are
    only guidance or code of life as to what acts are ideal and good but they are not laws themselves.

    These ‘codes of life’ cannot be implemented as a state law as thier interpretation (whether written in the quran or the
    sunnah) varies from persons to persons and from sect to sect. Some read and undertand the ‘sayings’ in one context
    while others percieve those same sayings in a different context. The most glaring example is the plethora of sects even among the major sect in Pakistan ie the sunni muslims eg maliki, hanafi, shafii, hanbali etc. All of them practicing and understanding the quranic and sunnahs’ sayings in
    their own context and understading. Due to the same if we try to implement such codes according to one context only as a ‘state law’ (as there cannot be two laws on the same subject),
    then my friends we will be committing a great crime against the ‘individual’ humans, humans who have some basic self evident rights;
    like the right to live in an environment of peace, love and individual freedom of belief, value and culture.

    So my view is that it is not a question of whether the separation of state and relegion is right and logical
    but that it is extremely necessary and mandatory and important. Religion is infact and was meant to be a personal matter, a
    matter of heart, a matter of ones’ own obligations, responsibilities;
    not something to be enforced by evil, force or
    killings!!! as is the norm of Taliban, AlQaeda, Ikhwan-ul-muslemoon of egypt, and muhammads’army of iraq. What they are doing
    is committing a great crime in the veil of religion, they are playing satans in the guise of muslims and so these and like
    them should be opposed with force, pen and words by every peace loving individuals and mulims.

    Regards,

  12. farrukh
    farrukh December 27, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    Dear Rox,

    thanks for the kind words.
    Being a student i cannot at present involve myself wholeheartedly to argue with all the ‘liberals’ frequenting internet nowadays. Take the case of Dr Azmat khan above, being a doctor he thinks he can lecture on his (dis)-beliefs about the Quran. Obviously, he has no clue about why Hazrat Muhammad PBUH was sent as a prophet and what Caliphate is all about. Neither does he care to explore, why he (Mr Azmat) was born. These liberals are so brainwashed they are not willing to even question the false beliefs inculcated thru Western education and their media. They are ashamed of the Great Islamic Heritage.
    i take my inspiration from Mr Atif quershi’s monumental work Pakistan- Manifest Destiny. which can be downloaded frrly from
    http://www.pakdestini.net/
    Born in 1982, this great son of the soil has written a thesis which should put all Dr.s and experts on this page to shame.
    regards

  13. Seema Ikram
    Seema Ikram December 27, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    Assalam-o-Alaikum;

    I think the main responsibilities of these mullahs (which most of them i know have forgotten and are hypocrites anyway—exceptions do exist) is not to be in power and rule; but to “tell and guide” people of the consequences of actions in the hereafter according to their own or their sects interpretation of quran and sunnah.
    Then it is the individuals own responsibility to research and find the true path and thereby act on it. That cannot and should not be enforced by force from outside
    but
    the individual should have the liberty to act and accept the true way by his own free will. That is the main essence of Islam and for that same essence to be there, the religion should be separated from the state. That is the same essence for which we should all oppose the fundamental wayward forces of Taliban and the like as these groups are the bane to humanity and muslims whose main aim is to force
    even by bloodshed into submitting and molding the people to their own wayward interpretation of Islam and sunnah.
    So religion should be there but it should not be there to terrorize people but to be adopted by them at their own free will and not to be ‘enforced’ to them by the state.

    Love,

    Seema

  14. yousuf
    yousuf January 3, 2010 at 4:54 pm |

    I think there is nothing wrong with secularism, and if it is applied in Pakistan we will get rid of bastards like Hafiz Saeed/S.O.B Maulana Azhar, Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Stupid Munaway, bloody Fazlur, se maniac SamiulHaq and many other Islamic firebrand hypocrats of Pakistan.

    Pakista ka mutlab kiya is term coined by the bastard Pseudo Islaists who were hell bent against the idea of Pakistan in the initial strugling days of Pakistan movement. They fought against the movement and some of them Like Attaullah Bukhari bastard types branded Pakistan as Pakisthan ( Place to remove under the belley hair) , but preferred to die here like Maudoudi ad Bukhari who are buried here.

    I am not against the blessings of Islam, but al of you who have based your arguments against secularism cayou answer me this question:

    How far good muslims were Muhammad Ali Jinnah or Liaquat Ali Khan?.

    If we adopt secilarism we will get rid of Mullaism for which there is no room in Islam, as every muslim is supposed to be fully conversant with all aspects of Islam, and can/should lead the prayers and perform other religious duties thus thus eliminating homosextual Mullas from Ummah’s life.

  15. safwan
    safwan February 1, 2010 at 3:56 am |

    With due respect sir, i must tell you that Its because of individuals like yourself that we exist in this state of total subservience and mental slavery to the western masters! Its a shame that you are using your blog to voice and propagate the opinions of the neo-cons and the imperialists sitting in Washington and elsewhere .I guess you have never read Iqbal’s poetry well enough to understand his vision about Islam and Muslims as a nation and an ummah. Iqbal himself said that “Koi andaza kar sakta hai iskay zor e bazo ka, nigah-e-mard e momin say badal jaati hain taqdeerain”, n then about separating religion from running the affairs of a state, he said “deen alag ho siyasat say to reh jaati hai changeezi”.

    Islam is a religion of peace, but it does not teach pacifism, Muslims are allowed and even encouraged to stand up in self-defence and tyranny against those who occupy their land, oppress and terrorise them and drive them out of their homes. Your arguments about eradication of fundamentalism make me doubt your true intentions, a Muslim has to follow the fundamentals of His/her religion to be even classified as a muslim, you either are a muslim, or your not, there is no place in religion for the so called, wannabe-ish “enlightened moderates”!!

  16. saleem
    saleem February 2, 2010 at 9:52 am |

    Secular Pakistan—what a joke! Foundation of Pakistan is a fraud perpetrated by some Muslims who favored it by emphasizing the need for a piece of land to have an Islamic nation separate from the majority of the Hindu population.Once they got the land, instead of enforcing Sharia (which should have been the aim) they started writing the “constitution”! My question to these traitors is: What is the difference in having a “constitution” of Pakistan and a “constitution” of India? This duplicity is the curse under which Pakistan was born.To top it they never gave up their ethnic loyalties and divided themselves along those lines (Punjabi,Sindhi,Pathan,Muhajir etc), instead of uniting as Muslims under Islam and enforcing Sharia.Indian Muslims who were stupid enough to fall in this trap and who migrated to this so called Pakistan are now Muhajirs!

  17. Ummar Khilji
    Ummar Khilji February 12, 2010 at 7:55 am |

    Salams to everyone;

    Totally agree with the author, Pakistan was made for the muslims in general and minority non-muslims also. A place where people of all faiths and creeds practice their religious obligations w/o any force and restrictions. It was not made just for these so called religious extremists and fundamentalist zealots only but all types of muslims of different sects and casts and beliefs. So all you fundamentals stay away from our peaceful land and remain in your maddarashs and mosques. And if you try to conquer our land by force as it is some fundamental party’s credo here then know this….
    moderate and peaceful ppl of pakistan in general who are in majority are brave and smart and will wage a total war on such nonsense zealots terror.

    Regards.

    Ummar.

  18. Asad Ullah
    Asad Ullah February 14, 2010 at 7:02 pm |

    This blog is for promoting Anti-Islamization in Islamic Capsul.

  19. Esther
    Esther March 14, 2010 at 9:33 am |

    Two things are true of Pakistan.

    Its President should be a Muslim and 40+ age.
    A Hindu nation could brake an Islamic country.

    I feel sad for Qaid, the country he founded broke, and his daughter married a non-muslim (a converted Christian).

  20. J.Lat
    J.Lat March 27, 2010 at 10:35 am |

    What I am about to say is strictly off the record. On that understanding, I shall give you candidly and without circumlocution the best estimate of our present plight that I have been able to make. Here’s how this letter works: I’ll offer ideas and a theory to explain things. You bring your own experiences to bear on the matter of Secular Pakistan’s debauched accusations, supplementing them where necessary with information from this letter. Together we will comment on Secular Pakistan’s expostulations.

    As the adherents of Randian objectivism believe, Secular Pakistan’s stances are so horny, so garrulous, so inane that there are really no earth words to describe exactly how I feel about them. Furthermore, as the adherents of empiricism observe, Secular Pakistan wants us to think of it as a do-gooder. Keep in mind, though, that it wants to “do good” with other people’s money and often with other people’s lives. If Secular Pakistan really wanted to be a do-gooder, it could start by admitting that its desire to repeat the mistakes of the past is the chief sign that it’s an untoward loan shark. (The second sign is that Secular Pakistan feels obliged to operate on a criminal—as opposed to a civil disobedience—basis.)

    Given Secular Pakistan’s current mind-set, the best thing about Secular Pakistan is the way that it encourages us to name and shame its admirers for their hidebound acts of commercialism. No, wait; Secular Pakistan doesn’t encourage that. On the contrary, it discourages us from admitting that if it manages to court a prurient minority of the most presumptuous scalawags you’ll ever see, civilization will crumble almost immediately. Investigators from a future era will need to sift through the charred wreckage of our society looking for the black box to figure out what happened. Maybe they’ll even discover that I want nothing more—or less—than to let Secular Pakistan know, in no uncertain terms, that it is guided by the ignis fatuus of racialism. To that task I have consecrated my life and I invite you to do likewise. To pick an obvious but often overlooked example, for Secular Pakistan’s neo-bumptious plans to succeed, it needs to dumb down our society. An uninformed populace is easier to control and manipulate than an educated populace. In the immediate years ahead, schoolchildren will stop being required to learn the meanings of words like “incomprehensibility” and “mediterraneanization”. They will be incapable of comprehending that Secular Pakistan obsesses not with what it can do for this country but with what it can extract from it. There’s nothing controversial about that view. It’s a fact, pure and simple. It was a fact long before anyone realized that Secular Pakistan has got to go—and yesterday isn’t soon enough. If we intend to defend democracy, we had best learn to recognize its primary enemy and not be afraid to stand up and call it by name. That name is Secular Pakistan.

  21. Khalid Bin Waleed
    Khalid Bin Waleed May 17, 2010 at 5:09 pm |

    Say no to Secularisim (Elhaad), be a pure and fundamental muslim. May Allah forgive us, and give hidayat to secular muslims!

  22. sohail
    sohail May 18, 2010 at 12:55 pm |

    Mr Malik, it is our badluck we having “KHOOOTEY SIKAY” since the day Pakistan was created by Allah. Quaid-e-Azam’s vision is not hidden, nor the aim to crate an independent Muslim State. Khootey Sikay like you always try to misguide the ignorant people to walk on your Dajjali Path. You yourself know that you misinterpreted the quaid’s saying. Will you live forever? Will you never Stand on the Day of Judgment? by writing this article to whom you are showing your loyalty?

    “The prosperity and advancement of a nation depend upon its intelligentsia, and Muslim India is looking forward to her young generation and education classes to give a bold lead for our guidance and a brilliant record of histrorical achievements and traditions. Islam expect every Muslim to do this duty, and if we realise our responsibility time will come soon when we shall justify ourselves worthy of a glorious past.”
    December 24, 1940

    “We should have a State in which we could live and breathe as free men and which we could develop according to our own lights and culture and where principles of Islamic social justice could find free play.”
    Address to Civil, Naval, Military and Air Force Officers of Pakistan Government, Karachi
    October 11, 1947

    “You have to stand guard over the development and maintenance of Islamic democracy, Islamic social justice and the equality of manhood in your own native soil. With faith, discipline and selfless devotion to duty, there is nothing worthwhile that you cannot achieve.”
    Address to the officers and men of the 5th Heavy Ack Ack and 6th Light Ack Ack Regiments in Malir, Karachi
    February 21, 1948

    “We must work our destiny in our own way and present to the world an economic system based on true Islamic concept of equality of manhood and social justice. We will thereby be fulfilling our mission as Muslims and giving to humanity the message of peace which alone can save it and secure the welfare, happiness and prosperity of mankind”
    Speech at the opening ceremony of State Bank of Pakistan, Karachi
    July 1, 1948

    People like you will keep coming and get defeated by the historical facts.

  23. Ameeratron
    Ameeratron July 21, 2010 at 12:21 pm |

    I read through about half of the comments – enough to see that the majority of people commenting disagree with the sentiments. I fail to understand why Pakistani’s are so insecure when it comes to religion. Secularism isn’t atheism, but is the separation of church and state. If Pakistan keeps religion and state separate, the country wouldn’t be in such a state of crap. There wouldn’t be so much injustice towards people of other faiths (many schools in Pakistan refuse to admit Christian students) and people would live together in harmony (as Jinnah wanted Pakistan to be). This has nothing to do with being ‘ultra westernised’ – it’s more along the lines of being more enlightened. If you think that Pakistan is a fair place to live in today, just ask any minority in this country about the excessive amounts of prejudice that takes place on a daily basis. Ahmadis are killed, Sufi shrines are destroyed, Christians and Parsis are shunned and looked down upon. This isn’t what Pakistan was meant to be. It was Pakistan’s obsession with Islam that created the Taliban (along with Americas involvement). Most of the Taliban were by products of Pakistani Madrassas, which should never have been built in the first place. All the terrorism we are witnessing now are the fruits of our own labour. Before we decline even deeper, it’s time to change – and ensure that our future generations are free of this deep-rooted religious intolerance.

    Live and let live – that’s my ideology. Never impose your religious views on others.

    I apologize for my lack of coherence. I’m usually asleep at this time.

  24. aman
    aman July 30, 2010 at 3:05 am |

    Most of the reactions voices against secularism in Pakistan stems out from
    the fact that Pakistanis need an identity .Punjabis,Sindhis&Balochis and others have distintictive identities based on languages/customs and religion can only hold them together.The propogated logic for enforcing morality and social order dependence on religion in public and personal life is a must,defies logic.Over reliance on religion only pushes a state/race towards dogmatism,intolerence,fundamentalism and umpteen no. of social evils.Please look at China and Japan which are far more developed & progressive countries where existence of religion or any religious customs are hardly visible.Secularism bring peace and tolerence to other religions and that is why Japan,Srilanka ,Thailand & Burma(although, Buddhist majority countries)did not witness public outrage and carnage after demolition of century-old Bamian Buddha statue in Afganistan by Taliban.What would have been the reaction of Muslim world had if any their sacred and revered mosque met the same fate at the hands of non-muslims.
    So, my appeal to Pakistani friends especially, the younger generation,please get rid of the illusion of religion, and put your effort to develop your country and decide your own destiny.

  25. kashif
    kashif August 28, 2010 at 11:54 am |

    EXCLUSIVE!!

    PAKISTANI INVENTOR OF SHRIMP PROCESSING MACHINE PAKISTANI PATENT NO. 128359 OF 1983

    ”# Category:Pakistani inventions – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Mazhar Butt, Patented (Pakistan Patent Office ,1983) Inventor of a Shrimp Processing Machine Mazhar Butt, Patented (Pakistan Patent Office ,1983) Inventor …
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pakis…”
    Pakistan Patent No. 128359

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