16 December 1971 marked the end of a nine month long saga of chaos; genocide, arson and rape, when Pakistan army surrendered East Pakistan to the Indian army. This day is etched as the day of ultimate betrayal in the hearts and minds of many Pakistanis who were promised by their President and Commander in chief that the fight would continue indefinitely, just a few hours before their 96,000 soldiers surrendered in Dhaka.
“Kill three million of them,” said President Yahya Khan, “and the rest will eat out of our hands.” Robert Payne writes in his book titled ‘Massacre’, referring to a meeting of Pakistan army’s top brass held
on February 22, 1971.
“For month after month in all the regions of East Pakistan the massacres went on,” writes Robert Payne. “They were not the small casual killings of young officers who wanted to demonstrate their
efficiency, but organized massacres conducted by sophisticated staff officers, who knew exactly what they were doing. Muslim soldiers, sent out to kill Muslim peasants, went about their work mechanically and efficiently, until killing defenseless people became a habit like smoking cigarettes or drinking wine. … Not since Hitler invaded Russia had there been so vast a massacre.” Robert Payne goes on to assert through his analysis that military dictatorship is the most corrupt form of government.
R.J. Rummel, in his book ‘Death by government’ describes: These “willing executioners” were fuelled by an abiding anti-Bengali racism, especially against the Hindu minority. “Bengalis were often
compared with monkeys and chickens” said Pakistani General Niazi, ‘It was a low lying land of low lying people.’ The Hindus among the Bengalis were as Jews to the Nazis: scum and vermin that [should] best
be exterminated. As to the Moslem Bengalis, they were to live only on the sufferance of the soldiers: any infraction, any suspicion cast on them, any need for reprisal, could mean their death. And the soldiers were free to kill at will. The journalist Dan Coggin quoted one Punjabi captain as telling him, ‘We can kill anyone for anything. We are accountable to no one.’ This is the arrogance of Power.
Susan Brownmiller, in her book “Against our will: Men, women and rape” puts the number of women raped from 200,000 to 400,000. She wrote, “Eighty percent of the raped women were Moslems, reflecting the population of Bangladesh, but Hindu and Christian women were not exempt. … Hit-and-run rape of large numbers of Bengali women was brutally simple in terms of logistics as the Pakistani regulars swept through and occupied the tiny, populous land …” Brownmiller quotes a description of one such assault which targeted a recently-married woman, as reported by Aubrey Menen: “Two [Pakistani soldiers] went into the room that had been built for the bridal couple. The others
stayed behind with the family, one of them covering them with his gun. They heard a barked order, and the bridegroom’s voice protesting. Then there was silence until the bride screamed. Then there was silence again, except for some muffled cries that soon subsided. In a few minutes one of the soldiers came out, his uniform in disarray. He grinned to his companions. Another soldier took his place in the extra room. And so on, until all the six had raped the belle of the village. Then all six left, hurriedly. The father found his daughter lying on the string cot unconscious and bleeding. Her husband was crouched on the floor, kneeling over his vomit.”
The human death toll reported during this nine month long genocide varies from 300,000 to 3 million. Mukti Bahini, the armed volunteers waging guerilla war against Pakistan army with the help of India,
avenged by murdering Biharis, the urdu-speaking migrants. Tens of thousands of Bihari men, women and children were murdered, their property looted and women raped. Biharis saw another round of murder after December 16, as Bengalis celebrated their independence by killing the friends of Pakistan army.
With signing of the surrender document, 96,000 Pakistani soldiers and civilians were interned into Indian jails and camps. Indian government that gloated on the success of their war against traditional rivals and gleefully announced themselves as liberators of Bengalis, did not mind sending the perpetrators of genocide back to Pakistan, after a deal was struck on border disputes. Those who committed murder and rape of their fellow countrymen in East Pakistan returned home to
receive pension from the national ex-chequer and they were awarded lands. A commission was set to investigate the war but its findings were never made public in Pakistan.
Two and a half million Biharis languished in refugee camps and their demand to be repatriated to Pakistan was struck down by various Pakistani governments. Families in those refugee camps lived under inhuman conditions for almost four decades and saw another generation grow-up. A few months ago the Supreme Court of Bangladesh decreed that Biharis be considered citizens of the country and allowed them to vote.
The army took over the rein of power again in Pakistan in 1977 and executed the elected Prime minister. They partnered with America in their war against Soviet Union in Afghanistan and the world forgot their crimes of 1971. There was military operation in Baluchistan. Sindhis were brutalized during Zia’s regime and Pakhtuns have been thrown in a war for 3 decades. The army/ISI, with its choke-hold on President Zardari’s government seems poised to push Sindhis into a clash again.
Pakistan army continues with its murderous ways and receives praise and aid for its efforts. With the International tribunal conducting trials and issuing warrants against culprits of crimes against
humanity, one wonders whether Pakistan army did commit any crime or the victims of their crimes were not humans.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Very well written article. Shame on Pakistan army!
December 15th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
bhainchud baaz ajao warna tumhari aortoin ko bhee bangalion kee tarha rape karain gay. agar army kay baray may aik aur mazmoon bhee chapaa to yeah website band kar dain gay.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am
@PakArmyZindabad: Please stop making threats like these. You are only hurting the institution of Pakistan army. Pak army is very tolerant. When we can stand in front on Indian tanks we can also take hate speeches of RAW funded Ibrahim Sajid Malick.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Well done Mr. Rashid! In 1971 the self-appointed President of Pakistan and Commander-in-Chief of the Army, General Agha Mohammed Yahya Khan and his top generals prepared a careful and systematic military, economic, and political operation in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). They also planned to murder its Bengali intellectual, cultural, and political elite. They also planned to indiscriminately murder hundreds of thousands of its Hindus and drive the rest into India. And they planned to destroy its economic base to insure that it would be subordinate to West Pakistan for at least a generation to come. This despicable and cutthroat plan was outright genocide.
After a well organized military buildup in East Pakistan the military launched its campaign. No more than 267 days later they had succeeded in killing perhaps 1,500,000 people, created 10,000,000 refugees who had fled to India, provoked a war with India, incited a counter-genocide of 150,000 non-Bengalis, and lost East Pakistan.
We should never forget! and thanks for keeping the memories fresh in our minds.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Madarchod Sajid.. hindio, yahodio aur eisio kay pathu.. pakistan army duniya ki wahid army hai jis say goray ghandoo, hindo ghandoo aur yahoodi ghandoo khaufzada hain.. aur agar Khuda na Khasta yeh na rehay to yeh yehoodi eisai aur hindo teri maa ko chod kay kitnay harami sajid paida kar dein.. is lie tu apna mu band kar.. bangladesi ghadaar the aur ab apni maaien chodwa rehay hain hindio ko baich kar.. aur bangladesh mein hindio ghandoo ki taraf mail honay walay ki hakumat hoti hai
December 16th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
salam..i have read all the stories which u have told,,im punjabi pakistan young man and very much ashamed of those artrocities done by our army,,,i think that 96000 army captured by india would be hang,,im really aplogetic for those things which were done by our elder,,im feeling shame that i am pakistani,,please forgive us,,this message is for all bengali brothers and sisters ALLAH HAFIZ
December 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
It is an indeed shameful part of the Pakistani history, but one should never underestimate the power of propaganda against Pakistan from the Indian and the Bangali side. Furthermore all this was being done on the bidding of corrupt ppl in power like yahya khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto & mujeeb ur Rehman. People of Pakistan were the ones who suffered, who were the victims & it was Jinnah’s Pakistan and the one of every1 else who died fighting for partition who got raped & torn apart, regardless of east or west.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Any genocide whether in Bangladesh, India, Germany, Yugoslavia or Rwanda and other is not justified. Political and army motives have done it, no doubt. It’s time to move on accept it that it happened.
@PakArmyZindabad – tu agar rape se mard banta hai, to tu mard hi nahi.
I agree some crook soldiers of even my country have done rape in J&K and other parts of India, but a planned assault on a community in cases of genocide is another disgrace on humanity.
It is time to act local, think global.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
few questions i don’t have an answer for?
first: Why did India not have the guts to confront Pakistan (back in 1971) face to face and rage a direct war….i.e. up till now (2010)?
second: (linked to question 1) why did it have to conspire against Pakistan? to achieve what? (conspiracy is for cowards)India the next superpower etc. is still conspiring against Pakistan. WHY? To Achieve What?
three: Muslim population India? we know its around 170 million in Pakistan – why cant India think on these facts and then decide its actions?
more questions will come soon..
December 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
i appreciate if you highlight Indian army possession in Jammu and Kashmir
u should focus on last may tragedy when two women raped be Indian soldier. and thousand of youngster killed since 1948. Shame on people like you
December 16th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
تم اپنے آپ کو پاکستانی کِہتے ہو اور پاکستان کے بارے میں ایسی باتیں کرتے ہو کیا تمہیں اس کام کے پیسے ملتے ہیں ؟
December 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
MY FRIENDS DONT PASS VALGUR COMMENTS IN PUBLIC SITES,,,THIS SHOWS THAT HOW CHEAP U R,,PAKISTAN ARMY NE JO BENGALION K SATH KIA WO HE AGAR TUMHARAY SATH HOTA TO KIA REACTION HOTA TUMHARA,,TUMHARI MAA BEHAN KA RAPE HOTA TUMHARI ANKHON K SAMNAY TO KIA HOTA???KABHI SOCHA HAY,,KHOF E KHUDA karo Allah ka azab tumhain pakarr layga,,KHUDA SE darro plz apnay apko uss jaga rakh k daiko
December 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
@Pakistan Army is Best – tune kabhi padhai ki hai? ya zindagi bhar mazhab ke naam per bakta aaya hai.
Yahoodi, Hindooi, Eisai kya lagaa rakha hai? tum jaise keede (insects) ke karam musalmaano ka naam kharab hota hai. 1 number ka Choo**ya hai!
I feel bad for the women killed in Swat, Waziristan and Balochistan too, just because they were humans.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Hi all,
We cannot bring back the lost time to right the wrong doings of our elders. At least let us not support any fanatics be it religious, racist or anyone for that matter and make this world a better place for the future generations. I am an Indian since I was born in India but I believe I am a citizen of the world before that. None of us had a nationality or a religion by the time we are born. however, we tend to pick up what we see and hear from our parents and neighbors and we keep fighting for causes the make no sense. Let us join hands at least now for a better tomorrow.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
This article is just a despirate effort to dishonour the PAK army.It seems that Malik Rashid has written the article without complete study of history.So first go and study about killing done by muktibahni and indian army.SPecially muktibahni killed the innocent muslims wo want to stay with PAKISTAN.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE KILLINGS AND RAPES DONE BY INDIAN ARMY IN KASHMIR IN 62 YEARS. why don,t you write an article about that if you want to show real crimes.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
killing the bangolies, saying our self a patriot z not good idea.we were slaves and still we are slaves , we killed our brothers the only part in pakistan in 1947 who had volantarily accepted to be a part of this pakistan was east pakistan,we made them red indians , y we always sabotage the history , y we always never admit our faults ,i think what our army did it was wrong ,our political policies were wrong too,…their takka z better then rupee and their democracy z better then us …. let our sohni dharti to rise again as nation, lets settle down and straigthen our democracy,army z not our ruler, ….
December 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
fiz Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
i appreciate if you highlight Indian army possession in Jammu and Kashmir
u should focus on last may tragedy when two women raped be Indian soldier. and thousand of youngster killed since 1948. Shame on people like you
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I am quoting you fiz just because you should not think educated, modern Indians do not know facts about Kashmir.
The murders you talk about are the Shopian murder cases which has caused a national uproar in Indian media. We also know about crimes committed by rogue elements in few of our North Eastern states.
But, none of that takes away the crimes committed in Bangladesh.
Politically J&K is stuck between our nations, let us just hope Kashmiris do not suffer much. Similarly in the struggle for independence, Bangladeshis should not have suffered. Same about the modern Pakistanis who now want to see a clean Pakistan and not one where a visiting cricket team is attacked.
Wasim Akram also will agree with me on this one and so will the late great Muhammad Ali Jinnah.
Such a pity British left us 60 years ago but South Asia is stuck in it’s shit.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
@pakistani army zindabad and @pak army is best….abbey choot ke dhakkano….paidaishi madarchodon….angrezi tumhari samajh mein nahi aayegi kyonki tum log toh paidaishi jaahil hote ho……isliye apni zubaan mein sun…agar tumhari porkistani army itni bahadur hai toh bangladesh alag kaise ho gaya chutiyon? tumhare 96000 hazar dapok aur buzdil jawano ne surrender kyon kiya? rahi baat hindustan ki…..toh bahan ke lund..tum saale madarchod pakistani hindustan se hi toh nikle ho…..saale, hindustani filmein dekhte ho, hindustani gaane sunte ho….hindustani channel dekhte ho…lekin dil se pakistani ho….abbey madarchod….pehle faisala kar le ki tu hai kya….tabhi duniya tumhari maan chodti hai….chahe woh gorey ho, hindu ho, ya yahudi……yahaan tak ki tumhare talibani muslim bhi….toh yahaan baithkar bakchodi karne ke bajai apni maan bahano ko chudne se bachaao……..tum dono ki maan ki choot
Aur haan sajid bhai….amazing article….very well written….i appreciate r honesty bro…u seem to be a true indian………..and yes, i respect all the religions…so nothing against u.
Jai Hind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
He is some agent “indian, american and israel’s” don’t worry, let the dog bark. MR. writer Your refernce ABC of XYZ country must know what genocide actually is? He deosnot need to research much, tell him to go through a recent past events, done by india in indian held KASHMIR (you will find it a real example of genocide, rape and masscare done by indian army since 60 years), america (terrorism every where in this world whether its Vietnam, Iraq, afghanistan and now in Pakistan in the form of their agents who are doing terrorism openly), israel (in Palestine). I wonder you and your refernce cannot see that all, all are very new stories or either the blood that is being still shed in many Parts in not blood because it belongs to Muslims at most places. Don’t forget Bosnia, rawanda and how many example I should quote….? Unfortunately the media is in the hands of yellow journalism, we don’t belive in media anymore all who are representing it are in one form or other are earnign dollars and selling their self respect (if there is any) patriotism.
We the People of Pakistan are Proud of our ARMY and we thank Allah that he has given us the courageous people who are defending our country, We the people shed tears when our soliders die in the line of their duty, and we all hate those who are playing at the hands of our enemy, unfortunately they are currently representing the media but we will not lose heart, we know ALLAH is with us.
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN ARMY, LONG LIVE PAKISTAN. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
December 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I mean South Asia stuck in its shit. Not that it’s shit.
December 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Not true !
Being 68 year old and still living in Bangladesh .
I know what it actually was , My parents told me what really happened when i was young.
Indian Army raped our women,sisters,mothers .
Pakistani Army fought against these rapists. And they were brutally executed to the rest of the world they told that it was Pakistani army .
Not much of bengalis know of this act indian Army did .
but Bangladesh Will always remember.
I know Pakistan is going through hard era , Everyone is apposing it.
But Allah will bless Islam , Will bless Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Stop fooling yourself my sons.
December 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
@saima…..well saima u need to realize that u DO NOT represent a religion…India has more muslims than pakistan does. The problem with u guys is u think u represent islam….please help me understand who the hell are u to represent islam? Who gave you that right? 35% of indian army consists of muslim soldiers. About pakistan…..u ppl can’t even defend ur guests….i am talking about the attack on the visiting Sri Lankan team….have u guys not been taught that a guest should always be protected? Also…ur so called brave army hangs a prime minister in public just because ur army chief wants to be the leader…I am not here to talk about any religion or community but let me ask u this…how can u be proud of an army which can’t even protect the civilians in ur country….we get to see a bomb blast every week in pakistan….what the hell has ur army been doing Mohtarma……….?
December 16th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
@ Mr bond , It wsas indian army who did this . You are too young to anything i suppose .Dont be so naive son , You can never feel what really happened those days. You werent even alive . I was and i heard , its better being quiet and compromising the facts !
And i suggest you not to be racist but this is how it is Even india is in no better condition to appose Pakistan’s or Bangladesh’s stability
December 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
rafi hawat hossain…..India is in a better condition than pakistan…no secong thoughts. And mr hossain….according to what u wrote in ur last post….u are 68….so, u should have been 30 when all this happened in 1971….i think u were old enought o analyse the situation urself….i can’t understand why u had to ask people or ue parents to draw a conclusion. Now, this brings me to a conclusion that u are either faking to be a bangledeshi and a 68 yr old…or u are simply lying….now to remind u….no cricket team was attacked in india….no prime minister was hangd in india….and military never took over the rule in india….we believe in equality and freedom for all…..democracy….unlike a military rule. even if u are actually 68…..i must say u have wasted all these years of ur life old man…u could have studied somethng or could have done some research before posting this statement. Thats true…i wasn’t even born in 1971 but i think i know more than u…..its just that india does not believe in harming anyone for no reason…otherwise it doesn’t take too much of an effort to crush an already dead country like pakistan.
December 16th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
@Saima: You must be a man hiding behind woman’s name. I don’t think any woman in the world will see the picture above of another woman, raped and left to die by your Pak Army jawan who have lost every war they faought. Pak Army can only kill civilians, Bangalis, Mohajirs, Sindhis, Baluchs and now Pathans. You might as well call it Punjab Army.
Shame on you…
December 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Pakistan Civil Society agree that Pakistani armed forces should be respected as they, under the constitution of the country are responsible for the security of the people. However a problem arises when the generals drag the military in politics and occupy important civilian positions. A myth created by the generals is that the institution of military is most efficient and forthright, while other institutions suffer from corruption and decay. This myth has been proved wrong time and again. The military has ruled Pakistan for more than half of its history and nothing seems to get better. In fact, the military itself has become corrupt and inefficient, even in its professional capabilities. Justice Hamood ur Rehman Commission warned the army generals that they were loosing their professionalism, which is due to the greediness, land grabbing and favoritism, just to mention few vices. The commission’s report and its recommendations were ignored. The generals are disliked by the people at large and are seen as non-professional land grabbers and corrupt. People have also lost faith in their capacity to defend Pakistan. The lack of military professionalism was witnessed during the 1970 war against India, Kargil and now in Waziristan areas. In the tribal areas the army’s professional performance was highly disappointing and because of that was forced to enter into an agreement with the tribes of the area.In short the Pakistan Army is seen not as defenders of the country but a political party filled with greed, corruption lust for suppressing the people. In these circumstances, how can anyone respect the present day military of Pakistan, especially its generals. Pakistan Army will only be respected if they remain within the confine of the constitution and restrict themselves to be professional soldiers, confined to their barracks
December 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
December 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Here are somethings we can do to save Pakistan:
1· Start a movement to oust the ARMY from political power.
2· Create a method to elect an honest leadership both in PPP, Muslim League, MQM, and other parties.
3· Make sure elected government completes term
4· Control the asset distribution by the ARMY Mafia. A proper regulated system should be devised.
5· Control the Assets of the Fauji Foundation and open the books to proper audit.
6· Perks such as land, plot gifts should be controlled or perhaps banned.
7· Make laws of severe punishment for the Generals to stop them from taking political power and that their prime duty should be Defense ALONE.
8· Start investigations into the lootings by the Army Generals especially the Core Commanders (including the millionaire Core Commander Lahore who has benefited most recently).
December 16th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
I went through all the comments and what ever happened was past and we can’t wash that from history. We should think about today’s world. Lets don’t fight or han pakistan army is best ke bachhe Kabhi pakistan aur bangladesh hindustan tha aur agar aaj woh hindustan hi rehtha toh muslim, sikh hindoo pori duniya ki maa chod dete. kabhi socha hai, kya ho raha hai tumahri country mein, naam ke liye democracy hai, tumahare bahi behen ko yeah chand harami musalman jo musalaman kehlaane ke hakdar nahin hai, roz bomb blast karte hain, marte hain aur batate hain ki khuda wuda kuch nahin, hum hain duniya ke sardar. Think about your growth in terms of jobs, buiness, tourism, none is in a proper shape in your country. Aaj america support hata le to khaane ke waande ho jaayenge. Kuch chand harami musalmano ke karan poora world muslims ko khafa ki nazron se dekhta hai. poore pakistan ko ek jut hokar sarkar gira deni chahiye. Yeh zardari naam ka president hai. Sirf paisa kama raha hai aur khundak utar rah hai pakistan se kyonki use bhi pakistan ke bashindo nein dokha diya that aur pakistan se nikal diya tha. Kuch karo warna woh din door nahin jab pakistan afghanistan ban jayega.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
See people like real pakistan and insaaf ali are worried about their country status. Hats off to you people. Being an Indian I feel bad whenever and whereever killings happen.
December 17th, 2009 at 12:29 am
These are exaggerated and painted stories just like Jewish holocaust which was multiplied enormously to create an impact on those minds who only see one side of the coin!!
The discussion can be quite long if we would start the old issue of our break up in 1971. But recently I had discussed that issue with one of the contributor here. However if you are talking about rights, the biggest blunder which Bengali leadership had made or used against innocent Benglis was the slogan of Sonar Bangla!! just on the basis of Jute Industry or Patsan Industry. Today the technological advancement has minimized the use of Jute and that single slogan was sunk in the Bay of Bengal.
Differences arise even under one roof and within families, but the slogan which carried Bangladesh to its independence was based on an ugly ideology that made an high earning son of a family believe that his brothers and sisters are parasites and are depending upon his income. This brother later decides to pull off and throw his brothers and sisters away in agony just to satisfy his ego that he is now the owner of what he earned.
The issue is very grave. Benglis came under influence of the propaganda of ugly politicians and got themselves now in a position that India can swallow them in just 10 days time, it is only the matter when they decide to do so. With their partnership with USA and possibly getting place in UN Security Council would darken Bangladesh’s future in the next coming days. Pakistan besides all the conspiracies and all the hatred Bengalis have developed since decades against their Muslim brothers, is safeguarding BD’s integrity as a noble cause. DGFI of Bangladesh has been elevated to the highest level where Indian border areas surrounding that country have been made difficult to defend by Indians themselves due to highly ignited insurgency in shape of Maoists, ULFA and lot more. Bengalis should say thanks to Pakistan that we have not left them alone even after they stabbed a blunt knife on our back.
Depending on UK and USA is like depending on Satan but to tell you truth, they will tap India’s back and would not even move a shoulder. The process has begun when Maldives a little island nation is becoming the target as news are pouring that Al Qaeda leadership is hidden in Maldives..
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/11/al-qaeda-in-maldives-international.html
India is ready to swallow small neighbors with the help of USA. It can be Maldives first, then may be you because Sri Lanka is a non Muslim country and would be spared from this process.
Better correct your Ideology Mr. Mallick because you are earning a burning hell for you because no Muslim can enter Jannah if he has hatred for his own Muslim brother in his heart. I am sorry to say that Bengali Ideology is based only on hatred against their own Muslim brothers and on the basis of so called massacre of Bengalis which is no doubt highly exaggerated just to trigger the hatred against Pakistan.
I would say that if Godforbid India would go any step further to demolish Bangladesh, you will find only Pakistan helping them to defeat and teach lesson to your breast feeder for your Independence.
Regards
December 17th, 2009 at 12:40 am
hese are exaggerated and painted stories just like Jewish holocaust which was multiplied enormously to create an impact on those minds who only see one side of the coin!!
The discussion can be quite long if we would start the old issue of our break up in 1971. But recently I had discussed that issue with one of the contributor here. However if you are talking about rights, the biggest blunder which Bengali leadership had made or used against innocent Benglis was the slogan of Sonar Bangla!! just on the basis of Jute Industry or Patsan Industry. Today the technological advancement has minimized the use of Jute and that single slogan was sunk in the Bay of Bengal.
Differences arise even under one roof and within families, but the slogan which carried Bangladesh to its independence was based on an ugly ideology that made an high earning son of a family believe that his brothers and sisters are parasites and are depending upon his income. This brother later decides to pull off and throw his brothers and sisters away in agony just to satisfy his ego that he is now the owner of what he earned.
The issue is very grave. Benglis came under influence of the propaganda of ugly politicians and got themselves now in a position that India can swallow them in just 10 days time, it is only the matter when they decide to do so. With their partnership with USA and possibly getting place in UN Security Council would darken Bangladesh’s future in the next coming days. Pakistan besides all the conspiracies and all the hatred Bengalis have developed since decades against their Muslim brothers, is safeguarding BD’s integrity as a noble cause. DGFI of Bangladesh has been elevated to the highest level where Indian border areas surrounding that country have been made difficult to defend by Indians themselves due to highly ignited insurgency in shape of Maoists, ULFA and lot more. Bengalis should say thanks to Pakistan that we have not left them alone even after they stabbed a blunt knife on our back.
Depending on UK and USA is like depending on Satan but to tell you truth, they will tap India’s back and would not even move a shoulder. The process has begun when Maldives a little island nation is becoming the target as news are pouring that Al Qaeda leadership is hidden in Maldives..
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/11/al-qaeda-in-maldives-international.html
India is ready to swallow small neighbors with the help of USA. It can be Maldives first, then may be you because Sri Lanka is a non Muslim country and would be spared from this process.
Better correct your Ideology Mr. Mallick because you are earning a burning hell for you because no Muslim can enter Jannah if he has hatred for his own Muslim brother in his heart. I am sorry to say that Bengali Ideology is based only on hatred against their own Muslim brothers and on the basis of so called massacre of Bengalis which is no doubt highly exaggerated just to trigger the hatred against Pakistan.
I would say that if Godforbid India would go any step further to demolish Bangladesh, you will find only Pakistan helping them to defeat and teach lesson to your breast feeder for your Independence.
Regards
December 17th, 2009 at 1:01 am
It is really sad to see that even today a majority of the Pakistani’s are running away from the truth with constant propoganda from the Pakistani army and the ISI which has plunged its very own country into an unending war and chaos, which means that today Pakistan is referred to as a Failed State the world over.
Go read the archives of all the leading newspapers from the world, read about their reporting during the the period of turmoil in Bangladesh. Every single one of them will confirm what has been said in this article. Even newspapers in America, which supported Pakistan during the war by way of funds and arms and even sent a carrier ship to the Bay of Bengal to intimidate India, reported the atrocities.
And why were these atrocities committed? Because an East Pakistani political party through constitutional election came to power in Pakistan and wanted to form the government. The greedy west Pakistani’s did not want to give up their power and so started killing them and raping them.
Millions of refugees from Bangladesh crossed over into India. The financial resources of the county were being strained and moreover we could not be silent spectators to such injustice and torture. Even politically, breaking Pakistan into two part was strategically a brilliant ploy. It not only completely humiliated Pakistan, but also increased Indian power, influence and security. As an Indian I am proud of that acheivement.
96,000 Pakistani’s surrendered. Within 14 days from the start of the war, Pakistan’s nose was groundeand cut off. 14 days only. And you say that that “Pakistan Army is the Best”. hahahaha…lol.
Pakistan has never won a war against India and can never win one. Pakistan army is so foolish that because of it Pakistan has had to sell its Sovereignty to United States.
Till the time you don’t realise who the real enemy is you will never get anywhere. because India has long gotten over it Pakistan obsession, We have more Global aims. It is time that Pakistan also get over its Indian obsession.
December 17th, 2009 at 1:21 am
@Mohammad Mansoor Ali Ansari:
i) Maldives is a country and under threat from Global Warming like Seychelles. Its government is planning to buy land in countries like Australia and India so it might migrate its population in the future.
ii)India will not gain any strategic or economic foothold by taking over these countries. Indians know it’ll only add to the already over the limit population and stretched out resources.
iii)It makes sense to see readers from Pakistan wanting to improve their country without making it a religious point. The point is administration, and India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka need to better it.
iv)The economic growth will be key to old mistaken ideologies being wiped out. India is not foolish to divulge in war right now, when we are more concerned about our GDP, growth rate, subsidies and energy demands.
Indian establishment and administration have to improve though.
Why do u think Narendra Modi is trying to change his image over the past 5 years to that of development and modern clothing? He know he can not be a national leader in India anymore just base on Hindutva or any religious ideology.
v)The world has it’s eyes on India. If China and India can start agreeing, you will see a different South Asia + China where making growth & development will be the main point for our leaders.
vi)As the West is not keenly concerned to make South Asia peaceful, plus their fear of a powerful communist China, it is solely up to the people and governments of this region.
December 17th, 2009 at 2:02 am
*the first line of the previous post is just to quote the post made by Mohammed Mansoor Ali Ansari.
the vi) points should make sense to most of the people.
December 17th, 2009 at 2:12 am
Did they really do so? It’s terrible of Pak Army if they were invovled in genocide and raping of poor Bengalis…
December 17th, 2009 at 2:29 am
@James Bond Maa Lun Kay bachay teri maa ki chut ka dhakan kissi hindo nay hi phara tha jis lie tu hindo kay lun ki tareef karta phir raha hai..
jab aik bangladeshi who is witness and saying the indian army raped the bengali woman in 1971 than why you are still favoring indian..
bcoz you are a madarchod bastard paidaish of indian.. you are agent of jewish and raw.. you are ghandoo.. maa lun kay bachay who told you the muslims comes from the hindus.. teri maa ka phudda.. a True Muslim only belong to Allah and His Prophet.. tu apna falsafa apni pass rakh aur apnay aap ko pehlay muslim sabat kar le.. aur @Global teri maa ka phudda jo hindo nay phara tha tu un ki tareef to karray ga hi.. maa lun kay bachay teri maa ki ghaand hindio nay phaar kar hi to tujhay paida kia hai thats why you are favor of hindos and you are a raw agent
December 17th, 2009 at 2:36 am
look this ghandoo new article
http://ibrahimsajidmalick.com/crazy-psychiatrist-mad-muslim/344/
Sajid is agent of cia raw black water mosaad..
he is insulting the muslims..
kill this guy
and ban his site
December 17th, 2009 at 7:34 am
@PakArmyZindabad: can u name any war on that u could zindabad to pakistan army
December 17th, 2009 at 7:36 am
@Pakistan Army Zindabad: abbey sale behen chod, tujhe kaise pata ki vo banda Bangladeshi hai? madar chod… jab saari duniya kehti hai too saale us ek ki baat par kyun vishwas karien? abey ja kar kisi neutral source se padh asal mein kya hua tha. Aur kyon hua tha. tere hisab se puri duniya pagal aur tum gaandu pakistani sahi!! abey aakhien khol. Even when Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw, who was Commander in Chief of the Indian army during 71 died the Nation of Bangladesh saluted him.
tumhari pakistani army ki gaand maar di thi. 14 days mien naak jamien mein ragad di thi tumhari saale. tumhara desh 2 hisson mein phad diya that. kis baat ki chodh he tujhe. Tatti hai tumhara desh aur tumhari army.
December 17th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Aniket! madarchodo tum logo ka kuttay say badtar haal kia tha hum nay KARGAL mein bhool gaye kutti maa kay kanjer ghandoo bharway indian.. apni maon bahno kay dallaal..
tv serial mein saray jahanum raseed indian sipahio ghandoo ki bewaien ro rehi thi.. kabhi hum ko b apnay shaheedo pay rotay dekha hai..
in india hindu ruied the life of muslims and sikhs..
everyone knew it..
maa lun kay bachay @ Aniket
dekh yeh video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d10rDZc3u2I
teri ghaand mein hai taqat.. kutto say badtar halat ki thi hum nay kargal mein .. yeh to aik chota sa jalwa tha.. maa lun kay bacho haraamio British kay wafadaar the tum log.. tum logo ki history bharri hue hai British say tumhari maa bahien chodwaya karti thi..
kis baat pay itna ghumand hai tum logo ko
Babri Masjid shaheed ki
maa lun bharray hue hain tum logo kay muzallam say history..
lekin tum logo ki ghaand hum nay bajja dee thi aik hi jhatkay mein kargal mein
December 17th, 2009 at 9:02 am
stop this propaganda against Pakistan and Pakistan army .. go and study all the articles in which Indian army and its allies at that time Mukti bani agents confessed that it was doings of Indian army, RAW and Mukti bani agents which was named as deeds of Pakistan army … same as the Samjhota express incident which was said to be done by Pakistan and in the end Indian army was involved in that … liar and Traitor you are. PAKISTAN and PAKISTAN ARMY ZINDABAD
December 17th, 2009 at 9:03 am
HAHAHAHAHA. Sale madar chod 4000 pakistani mare the aur keval 500 hindustani. Ja, ja kar padh –
http://www.insaf.pk/Forum/tabid/53/forumid/1/tpage/1/view/topic/postid/28330/Default.aspx#28330
http://www.india-defence.com/reports/2200
Tum behen ke lando ne Humare desh ka ghanta ukhada. Sale behen chod. Na 1 inch zamin mile aur 4000 aadmi bhi khoye, phir bolta hai hi ke humari gaand maari. hahahaha. Sale tumhari Army ne to apne jawanon ke shareero ko bhi vapas lene se mana kar diya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War#Pakistan
Ja kar Nawaz Sharif aur apne logon se puch ki kiski ngand phati thi.
Tu to sach mein bahut bada bewakoof aur ghadha hai, jisko ghanta pata hai sachai ka. Tujh jaise madar chod se bahas karne ko koi faida nahin. ja kar apni behen chod aur gaand mara
December 17th, 2009 at 10:33 am
@Hamza: shut up,all these works were done by INdian Son of Bitches!!!
December 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am
hi all
this is what i concluded on watching above comments……..
people like global, aniket, hamza n some other brothers n sisters from both sides trying to make some peaceful dialogue by admitting that genocide is wrong, no matter where it is done or which religion it was….
but n other hand ppl like pakarmyzindabad won’t see the actual thing….they would keep believing on what they see in their local media or whatever…..
See some of the older posts in this blogs…….Mr. Malick has never favoured ne particular country……..he writes whatever is based on his research.
If he has written something about mumbai blasts then he has also written about a muslim student who was thrown out of convent school in india for growing beard……..he also writes about why India don’t go for war and also about if India is democratic or not……..
So plzz stop disgracing him by calling him a jewish agent or whatever….. respect his thinking…….everyone has write to think freely n express it………..thts what we believe on as Indians n Pakis never………..tht why we are the LARGEST DEMOCRACY IN WORLD.
December 17th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
here is the reality of 1971
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpCroezFrY
December 17th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
come on guys…..this INDIA-PAKISTAN issues sucks…..
i still why both d nations keep fighting each other….and for what…..pakistan decides all d matters keeping relegion on the top..nah…
its relegion, just to make pakistanis see that we are true muslims.
d fact is, pakistan wo sochta hai jo usse america sochwata hai…..
saalo, kuch kaam nahi aayega….na relegion….na pakistani army…na indian army…. jab natural disasters honge…..asar to dikhna shuru ho gaya hai..
INDIA and CHINA did a good job at copehngam.
relegion…se upar utho….apne aap ko bachao……make sm efforts to save earth…..
aaj tak kis baat pe lad rahe haion india pakistan?
jammu kashmir pe….aadha pakistan ke paas hai aadha india..ke…..
lekin politician ki bhookh nahi mit ti….. aag lagata rehta hai america….
coz wo jaanta hai..agar south asia me aman aur chain bahal ho gaya…. to ye gaand phaad denge western world ki… dey’ll loose dere supremacy
wo ab b wohi kar rahe hain…..divide n rule….fark itna hai pehle hum(INDIA PAKISTAN JOINTLY) gulam the ur ab alag alag aur azad hain….
kabhi socha hai…..kya fark hai .. jab gulam the aur jab azaad hain….?
pehle angrez ladwate the aur ab america.
pehle angrez bhadkate the apne fayde ke khatir aur ab apne politician….
aatankwaad…..kahan nahi hai…. par aaj sabse jyada india aur pakistan me hi hai….. q?
q FBI ki har report me 1 Pakistani ka naam zaroor hota hai….?
unn chand islam ke naam par bhadkaye logo ne poore mulk ka naam dubo rakha hai….?
osama ko america banaya….osama ne america pe hi attack kiya…..
taliban pakistan ne…..aur ab taliban pakistan ko hi kha raha hai…
remember d global rule “evryone is being given d dose of dere own medecine smday”
arre apne asli dushman ko pehchaano…..aur baat karo……
1971 me hona tha ho gaya…jab ke halaat kuch ke kuch rahe honge….aur ab kuch ke kuch hain….
ab to aapas me ladne ke bajaye baut si cheeze ladne ke liye….
n pls stop talking abt islam…..india me pakistan se jyada muslim rehte hain….. so stop calling urself true muslim…
rape…kya rape….. kya pakistan me kabhi rape nahi hota….
JnK me rape hua…tumhe pata chal gaya….baaki hindustan me hua..wo kahan gaya?
humme bangladesh me jo hua pata hai…par wo kahan gaya jo aam zindagi me hota hai pakistan me..?
ye sab planned political strategies hain….to fill hatred against each other….
agar mindset change nahi hua…..den believe me….our comin generations will also keep fighting n killing each other for no reason…
@INSAAF ALI… hats off man…. u r true citizen of pakistan. keep it up.
we indians, hv moved on….its time for pakistanis as well to move on..
its being 60 years into a war…bt jahan 1947 me the…ab b wahin kahde hain….
evryone…just think…..
December 17th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
maa lun hindio dekho asal reality.. aur jo real muslim yahan baithay hain woh in hindio ka asal chehra dekh lein is video ko dekh kar
aur yeh hindio asteen ka saamp hai
inho nay sikho kay temple tak ko nahi chora wohi sikh jo humesha in kay saath rehay yeh muslims kay saath kay wafadari karien gein
yeh hai asal haqeeqat.. in baghairatio hindio indian say jo dosti karray ga woh muslmano say ghadari karray ga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpCroezFrY
December 17th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
@mr. Human.. tum jin haraamio ki tareef kar rehay ho true pakistani bol kar asal mein woh hindo hain muslims name rakh kar baithay hue hain.. tum log ab yeh baat kartay ho kay ab yeh issue choro jab kay tu maa lun ka bacha hindio ki tareef kar raha hai..
kis biggest democracy ki baat kartay ho tum ma lun kay bachay.. jo khood char zaato mein batti hue hai.. jahan tum log apnay hindo religion lekin choot zaat ko haath lagga kar nahanay challe jatay ho .. tum aur logo kay saath kya insaaf karo gay.. tum to khood apnay char zaato mein battay hue ho.. tum logo nay sikho kay temple tak ko tabah kar dia.. sikho ko chun chun kar mara.. babri masjid ko shaheed kar dia… church ko aag lagga dii.. yeh hai biggest democracy.. jahan tum kissi aur ko dekhna tak gawara nahi kartay.. hum apna religion bhool jaien.. aray maa lun kay bachay.. tum log ho jo apni maa bahno ko baichtay ho apna religion chor detay ho.. aik muslims mar sakta hai apna religion nahi chor sakta.. tum apnay matlab kay lie bund marwatay aaye ho.
tum logo ka jhoota bharam toot chukka hai
tumharay apnay india mein aaj kahien tanzeemien hain jo hindio kay is ghandoo rawiye ki vaja say india say alag hona chahti hain.. tum un ko chupanay ki poori koshish kar rehay ho lekin ghandoo ab sab duniya jaanti hai.. tum logo ka asal chehra yeh hai kay tumhari hi army kay aik cornal nay pak india ki train ko aag lagga kar hazaari muslims aur hindio ko zinda jalla dia tha.. sirf is lie kay tum log kay dil mein bughaz hai.. tum logo doghlay ho.. aur jab us cornal ko police officer nay pakar kar jurm sabat kar dia to tum tasub pasand ghaandio hindio nay us police officer ko b marwa dia..
tum logo ka asal chehra sab kay samnay aa chukka hai.. tum log jitna b apnay aap k saaf sabat karo.. duniya ko tumhari asal haqeeqat petta chal gaye hai
aur 1971 ki asal haqeeqat yeh hai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpCroezFrY
chor do apnay ghandoo makroo chehray par parda daalna.. tum log ghandoo the aur reho gay..
tum logo nay aik chota sa nazara dekha tha na Kargal mein bund marwatay hue..
December 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
@pakistan army is best
that operation was political, not relegious
jab mukti bahini ne east pakistan me bagawat ki thi, pakistani army crushed d movement. was a right move by national leaders of pakistan.
wahi hua tha iss case me b….
sm elements made voilent protest to get a seperate nation for sikhs, n gradually dey emerged as a terrorist group. just like mukti bahini did.
indian army launched an operation against them…n tried to crush d movement, just like pakistani army did to mukti bahini.
nothing wrong with that.
facing a strong counter measure from indian army….these terrorist ran n hide in a gurudwara n keep firing on army. so army take dem down dere itself.
its was a political move to protect nations sovereginity n pride…it was nt a relegoius.
maine pichle comment me kaha tha…har baat me relegion mat lao….wo cheez baat ko kisi aur dhang se hi kehti hai….
n u talk abt MUSALMANO SE GADARi…..
taliban…..muslim hai.. aur mostly pakistan aur afganistan se hi hain…
wo INDIA se b nafrat karte hain..par wo musalman hoke pakistan aur afganistan ke musalmano ko hi q maar rahe hain….?
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dont talk abt relegion…..@Pakistan Army is Best:
December 17th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
@PakArmyZindabad:pakistan army zindabad kaise ho gyi aaj tak salo ek v jang jeeti hai.. bat kera hai sala zindabad ki.. behanchod tu kya tere sare pakistan v mil k is website ko band nahi ker sakte.. or itni har k bad kuchh to seekh lo.. beta indian har bat main pakistan k bap hain.. oor ek bat maderchod apni maa se pooch laina kahin tera bap v indian na ho ..
December 17th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I along with some of my friends believe that all what is happening in Pakistan is just because Pakistan became a nuclear power. (which if you want to agree with or not is your decision but it does not change the facts.)
Nuclear Pakistan to most western countries, India along with other non-Muslim countries is unacceptable. What all is happening in Pakistan or in its neighboring countries is a conspiracy against it at a global level.
Taliban who today are terrorists were mujahideen who fought against Russia
no blasts in Pakistan before 1998 – 2000
No invasion of Iraq
No Axis of evil, Iran issue
No special terms in Aid
Pakistan becoming an economic power and business flourishing
No 9/11 – conspiracy blah blah blah and the list goes on and on…..
All events known by the common people (thanks to media) are projected.
If today Pakistan lets go its right to be a nuclear power all of this is going to settle down in its favor. What ever is happening is not good and attempts to destabilize it to gain control over its nuclear assets.
I don’t know about other countries but i know for a fact that India’s shit freezes when they think of nuclear Pakistan.
There are traitors in every nation whether its Jews, Christians, Muslims or Hindus. So keeping this fact in mind we have them in Pakistan as well who knowingly or unknowingly are being used by the enemies of Pakistan.
These type of articles mean nothing to a common Pakistani because they don’t portray the right picture. They only show one side of the story and part of propaganda against Pakistan. A true Pakistani really knows the value of Pakistan Army and respects it as well. A proof of which is the abuses from some of my fellow countrymen above. We do not like our religion, country or army being discussed by every tom dick and harry……
In the end i will request the admins of this website to close this topic as it failed to serve its purpose…. and please publish articles which are based on facts and show the complete picture.
December 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
@thakur ma lun teri maa nay jo hum say ghaand marwai hai.. hum nay 1965 ki war aur kargal war mein tumhari ghaand bajja di thi … 1965 mein aaye the ulta apnay hi alaqa chor kar baagh gae the.. phir america kay tattay chaat kar gol maze conference say area wapas lia.. kutti kay bachay baat kartay ho kay tum winner the.. tum log ki maien bahien hum say chodwati hain.. kargal mein tum logo ki aisi bund bandook ki thi.. tum nay apnay ghandoo manhoos jahanum raseed indian army ki yaad mein programme bannaya .. tum log aisay dartay ho mot say kay un log kay relative mein say aik b nahi bola kay humein is marray hue indian army relative par proud hai.. ulta tumhari indian army kay marray hue relative ro ro kar halkaan ho rehay the.. tumhari chootia indian army roz suiside karti hain kashmir mein mentally itnay darray hotay hain kay sucide kar letay hain ya apnay hi indian army pay fire khol detay hain.. salay buzdil haraami ghandoo.. roz aisi baatien hoti hain tum ghandio ki.. maa lun buzdil
December 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
thakur jee app itna ku tap rahy ho.. app ko kia jararota hay larnay ki.. app log to banyanee log ho is lari jhagray mai mat paro bujnis karo.
han agar bahut keera hay to apani army ko bolo Pakistan per attack kar day.. app to jeet hi jow gay haina..
shabash kaho apni army ko kay yeah Pakistani hum ko bahoot tang karat hay is ko hara do please….
December 17th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
@thakur.. tera asli baap mein hoon.. teri maa nay mujh say chodwa kay tujhay paida kia hai.. maa lun.. ja kay pooch apni indian army ki halat kashmir mein roz kitnay suside kartay hain.. maa lun baat karta hai.. bharway salay takkay takkay par tum logo ki auratien bikti hain ..
December 17th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
yaar pehel to mujhe ye samajh me nahi aata,,,yahaan gaaliyan bhaukne ka kya matlab hai…..i hope u r mentally all sound….well upto u…shayd tumhe yahi sikhaya gaya ho…..
agar duniya sab jaanti hai to…koi kuch kehta q nahi…har jagah paksitan…pakistan….huh….
n u know…y all this is happening…..just coz of some sick people like u who r suffering from BLOODY RELIGION VIRUS…..
tum log apna relegion nahi chodte….dat pretty good n appreciated…dat u r strongly determined…..bt iska fayda kya hai….kya haasil ho gaya….kya mila aaj tak….?
mila to ladai…ladai..ladai….
parda..kaunsa parda daal rakha hai…..jab duniya ko sab pata hai …to chalne dete hain sab kuch laisa chal rha hai…tum humare 10 bande maroge…aur phir hum tumhare….
aisa hi chalta rahega agar tum jaise dimaag aur b huye to….
aaye din blast sun ne me aate hain pakistan me…..halanki hote india me b hain…bt hote dono jagah hain…
taliban vs pakistani army ko agar main tumhaari boli me bolu….to banega…
TALIBANI MUSLIMS vs FAUJI MUSALMAN….par main itna pagal nahi hu…jo iss zaroori jung ko religion ke tarazu me tolun….
its need…
well…its an endless debate….
December 17th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
gaadoo nahi tu sajid GAANDDA ha bohaat bara..Saari umer Paki Army ko bond deta raha ha,Ab behan ka rishta nahi detta toPaki army Maa to choodday gi na jese bangalion ki choddi thi..bhen k lorray sahi tu kissi kunjri maa ka bacha ,daalaaal baap ka hira jamma ha,,,Kuti ki nasl,Pig ki olad….Mard ka bacha ha na to Pakistan chorr ja,Nashi to teri maa behan k saath wohi karain gay jo tu ne bangalion k saath kia likha ha..
Gaandaaa pooray pakistan ka
December 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
james bond tera naam issi waja se rakha tha tere Najayaz baap ne ko tu AIK bohat bari BUND ha,,I mean Gaand…or Gaand se banta ha Gaandoo,Par diker na kar too Gandoo nahi TYPICAL HINDUSTORI GAANDDAA’ ha jo sirf Paki’s se Gaaand marwaata ha…
so mera bacha jaa pahle Bond .hahahah,,,Gaand marwani chor takay tere name k saath se ye lanat to utaray..Oye tu tay kissay nu muu wakhaan day kabil nahi ria…James di paati hoyi Bond…U BIg Ass…..
Ja mera bacha sooo ja jaa k..te fer pakistan wich aye bond lay k naa waree
December 17th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
@saima….
Jee rakh oo shahzadiyye..
December 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
@mr.human .. maa lun .. tum log baat kartay ho.. indian mein b hindio kay taasab rawiye ki vaja say din ba din aisi tanzeemo aur logo ka asafa hota ja raha hai jo tum india say alag hona chahti hain.. india is the only country in whole world, which dont have good relation to any of his neighbour country.. this is what all knows.. do you want to hide yourself.. no mr.human maa lun kay bachay.. all worlds knows this that you never have good relation to any of neighbour country.. and the raw who is invovle all the suiside attacks in pakistan.. they are now open.. you are doing it .. tum logo ki muslimaan, insaaniat aur tum community say dushmani poori duniya ko petta chal gaye hai… india is the only country whos offices are present in all his neighbouring country except pakistan and china.. like bhutan, maldives and nepal.. bcoz they are week country.. but pakistan and china nay tum logo ki aisi ghaand maari hai kay tum logo ka paishaab nikal jata hai.. salay haraam kay jannay hue.. kissi aik neighbour country say to acha rishta banna letay..
lekin hindo aik baniye ,, bharwa ghandoo aur madarchod hai..
aur hindo apnay aap ko jo samajhta hai woh hum nay kahien bar is ki ghaand khol kar is ki oqaat dikhai hai
December 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
The acts of the Pakistani Army AS WELL as the Mukti Bahini + Indian Army during the separation of East and West Pakistan is shameful. No apology as yet by either party, shameful. Also shameful is the fact that you dismiss and rubbish the achievements, bravery and courage of thousands of good men who served Pakistan’s armed forces over the last 60+ years, many of whom achieved shahadath, many of whom led honourable lives, and maintained discipline in an organisation in a country where discipline is hard to come by. Two sides to every story, and nothing is this black or that white. Shame those who misbehaved, but also give credit where it’s due. There are lots of grey areas. Let’s not forget Bhutto was a major instigator in the case of East and West Pakistan issues, he and the Indians helped fuel the trouble. He was also responsible for politicising the ISI with the obvious intention of manipulating the people of Pakistan. There were honourable men like Asghar Khan, also an ex-member of the armed forces, who could have led Pakistan to glory, but it wasn’t meant to be. Every country and its army goes through a dark patch, we’ve been suffering ever since. You say the “Pakistan army continues with its murderous ways and receives praise and aid for its efforts” — your article is exactlythe kind of praise they usually get. How are things going to improve when educated persons like yourself don’t look fwd. This is not inspiring. IT is a deliberate attempt to demoralise a people, I hope you do not succeed.
Regards
Khan
December 17th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
At the end of the war in December 1971, a commission was established
by the Government of Pakistan under Chief Justice of the Supreme
Court, Hamood-ur-Rahman. Full text of the Commission’s report could be
viewed at:
http://www.bangla2000.com/Bangladesh/Independence-War/Report-Hamoodur-Rahman/default.shtm
“The War Inquiry Commission was appointed by the President of Pakistan
in December 1971. In its secret report, never made public in Pakistan
the commission, headed by then Chief Justice of Pakistan, Hamoodur
Rahman, held widespread atrocities, other abuses of power by Pakistani
generals and a complete failure in civilian and martial-law leadership
responsible for the loss of East Pakistan. The report dwells on a
range of sins: killing of thousands of Bangladeshis—both civilians and
“Bengali” soldiers—rape, pan smuggling, looting of banks in East
Pakistan, drunkenness by officers, even an instance of a Brigadier
“entertaining” women while his troops were being shelled by Indian
troops. It recommended a string of court-martials and trials against
top officers . Nothing ever happened. The army’s role in splintering
Pakistan after its greatest military debacle was largely ignored by
successive Pakistani governments.”
December 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpCroezFrY
December 17th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
all the peoples are now understand that every person who is talking in the favor of indian are actually the indian and hindus .. maa lun hindo chuptay kion ho apnay maaa ki ghaand mein samnay aakar bolo..
December 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
after reading all the posts i have come to realize and appreciate the wisdom and courage shown by all those people who sacrificed their life,honor,family,wealth and all other things to get Pakistan. after reading the biased comments of all my “indian brothers N sister” i thank Allah tht im not ;leaving in india. if Jinnah,Iqbal and all the other heroes hadnt stood up for the right of the muslims then we would have been livin da life of Pharaohs slaves! and this trailer had been shown to when the hindus came in to power in the elections before 1940. you ppl talk abt genocide??? the “indian army aka hindus” commited the biggest genocide at the time of the partition! killin, raping and looting any Muslim they saw. pleas dont insult us by saying tht “indians” give freedom of speech and know how to move on; show the true picture, or can face the truth. Because the truth is if we had a war right now the indians would most definitely lose. the truth is tht the indians didnt have any successful nuclear test back in 1998 bt still screamed to the world tht they had successful tests and were nw a nuclear nation (where as Alhamduillah Pakistan had successful tests).
THE TRUTH IS THIS:
Ghulam Rasul Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am
@PakArmyZindabad: Please stop making threats like these. You are only hurting the institution of Pakistan army. Pak army is very tolerant. When we can stand in front on Indian tanks we can also take hate speeches of RAW funded Ibrahim Sajid Malick.
Mre Ghlum Rasul is right and i think he is the only person who has spoken anything understandable and true.
all of u who r tryin 2 support the army or Pakistan by using such derogatory words i must tell u u guyz are lousy actors.
like always u are some “biased hindus/indians” who are pretendin to support Pakistan Army.
sombody ovr here wantd 2 knw which war Pakistan had won??? do they teach you any real history in ur “freedom of speech, i speak the truth” schools??
if not please go and check real history books to knw which war Pakistan won and inda lost and the reality of the Bengali massacre. ull be suprised to find like always the “indian army” had pretend to be Pak army offical and commited all these atrocities. the everey day bombing in Pkaistan is also thanks to our “friendly, peace loving, honest” indian brothers and sisters. the pll who are doing all these suicides arent even Muslims!
Bt than again these are things tht i dont expect our “friendly, peace loving, honest” indian brothers and sisters to under stand. u guyz r right our govt sucks and v hav som bad eggs in our Pak army bt they r ur N american govt’s implants.
I PRAY FOR MY COUNTRY’S SUCCESS. INSHALLAH WE WILL SOME DAY BE ABLE TO SHOW OUR FRIENDLY INDIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS THE TRUE PICTURE IN THIS LIFE OR THE NEXT. INSHALLAH WE WILL SUCCEED!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!!! PAK ARMY ZINDABAD!!!
December 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Part V
Chapter II
Alleged atrocities by the Pakistan Army
As is well known, the conduct of the Pakistani army, while engaged in counter-insurgency
measures in East Pakistan since March 1971, has come in for a lot of criticism from several
quarters. We had occasion to deal with the subject in Paragraphs 5-8 of Chapter II of Part V of the
Main Report. We have examined this question further in the light of fresh evidence recorded by us.
Misdeeds of the Awami League Militants:
2. It is necessary that this painful chapter of the events in East Pakistan be looked at in its proper
perspective. Let it not be forgotten that the initiative in resorting to violence and cruelty was taken by
the militants of the Awami League, during the month of March, 1971, following General Yahya
Khan’s announcement of the 1st of March regarding the postponement of the session of the
National Assembly scheduled for the 3rd of March 1971. It will be recalled that from the 1st of
March to the 3rd of March 1971, the Awami League had taken complete control of East Pakistan,
paralysing the authority of the federal government. There is reliable evidence to show that during this
period the miscreants indulged in large scale massacres and rape against pro-Pakistan elements,
in the towns of Dacca, Narayanganj, Chittagong, Chandragona, Rungamati, Khulna, Dinajpur,
Dhakargaoa, Kushtia, Ishuali, Noakhali, sylhet, Maulvi Bazaar, Rangpur, Saidpur, Jessore, Barisal,
Mymensingh, Rajshal?, Pabna, Sirojgonj, Comilla, Brahman, Baria, Bogra, Naugaon, Santapur and
several other smaller places.
3. Harrowing tales of these atrocities were narrated by the large number of West Pakistanis and
Biharis who were able to escape from these places and reach the safety of West Pakistan. For
days on end, all through the troubled month of March 1971, swarms of terrorised non-Bengalis lay
at the Army-controlled Dacca airport awaiting their turn to be taken to the safety of West Pakistan.
Families of West Pakistani officers and other ranks serving with East Bengal units were subjected
to inhuman treatment, and a large number of West Pakistani officers were butchered by the
erstwhile Bengali colleagues.
4. These atrocities were completely blacked out at the time by the Government of Pakistan for fear
of retaliation by the Bengalis living in West Pakistan. The Federal Government did issue a White
Paper in this behalf in August 1971, but unfortunately it did not create much impact for the reason
that it was highly belated, and adequate publicity was not given to it in the national and international
press.
5. However, recently, a renowned journalist of high standing, Mr Qutubuddin Aziz, has taken pains
to marshal the evidence in a publication called Blood and Tears. The book contains the harrowing
tales of inhuman crimes committed on the helpless Biharis, West Pakistanis and patriotic Bengalis
living in East Pakistan during that period. According to various estimates mentioned by Mr.
Qutubuddin Aziz, between 100,000 and 500,000 persons were slaughtered during this period by the
Awami League militants.
6. As far as we can judge, Mr Qutubuddin Aziz has made use of authentic personal accounts
furnished by the repatriates whose families, have actually suffered at the hands of the Awami
League militants. He has also extensively referred to the contemporary accounts of foreign
correspondents then stationed in East Pakistan. The plight of the non-Bengali elements still living in
Bangladesh and the insistence of that Government on their large-scale repatriation to Pakistan, are
factors which appear to confirm the correctness of the allegations made against the Awami League
in this behalf.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Provocation of the Army
7. We mention these facts not in justification of the atrocities or other crimes alleged to have been
committed by the Pakistani Army during its operations in East Pakistan, but only to put the record
straight and to enable the allegations to be judged in their correct perspective. The crimes
committed by the Awami League miscreants were bound to arouse anger and bitterness in the
minds of the troops, especially when they were not confined to barracks during these weeks
immediately preceding the military action, but were also subjected to the severest of humiliations.
They had seen their comrades insulted, deprived of food and ration, and even killed without rhyme or
reason. Tales of wholesale slaughter of families of West Pakistani officers and personnel of several
units had also reached the soldiers who were after all only human, and reacted violently in the
process of restoring the authority of the Central Government.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
and this was like 38-39 years back… it is currently happening in Gujarat, India and the Indian held Kashmir…. write about that you little fuck if you have the guts too…
December 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
so now SHUT THE FUNK UP……….You deserved the retaliation from the Pakistan Army which you have named as atrocities for your convenience.
and this was like 38-39 years back… it is currently happening in Gujarat, India and the Indian held Kashmir…. write about that you little funk if you have the guts too…
December 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
32. According to the Bangladesh authorities, the Pakistan Army was responsible for killing three
million Bengalis and raping 200,000 East Pakistani women. It does not need any elaborate
argument to see that these figures are obviously highly exaggerated. So much damage could not
have been caused by the entire strength of the Pakistan Army then stationed in East Pakistan even
if it had nothing else to do. In fact, however, the army was constantly engaged in fighting the Mukti
Bahini, the Indian infiltrators, and later the Indian army. It has also the task of running the civil
administration, maintaining communications and feeding 70 million people of East Pakistan. It is,
therefore, clear that the figures mentioned by the Dacca authorities are altogether fantastic and
fanciful.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
33. Different figures were mentioned by different persons in authority but the latest statement
supplied to us by the GHQ shows approximately 26,000 persons killed during the action by the
Pakistan Army. This figure is based on situation reports submitted from time to time by the Eastern
Command to the General Headquarters. It is possible that even these figures may contain an
element of exaggeration as the lower formations may have magnified their own achievements in
quelling the rebellion. However, in the absence of any other reliable date, the Commission is of the
view that the latest figure supplied by the GHQ should be accepted. An important consideration
which has influenced us in accepting this figure as reasonably correct is the fact that the reports
were sent from East Pakistan to GHQ at a time when the Army Officers in East Pakistan could
have had no notion whatsoever of any accountability in this behalf.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
the best one lol…….
34. The falsity of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman’s repeated allegation that Pakistani troops had raped
200,000 Bengali girls in 1971 was borne out when the abortion team he had commissioned from
Britain in early 1972 found that its workload involved the termination of only a hundred or more
pregnancies.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Question of Responsibility
35. For almost three years now, the world has repeatedly heard a list of 195 names said to have
been prepared by the Dacca authorities in connection with the commission of these atrocities and
crimes. As the Commission has not been supplied with a copy of this list, it is not possible for us to
comment upon the justification or otherwise of the inclusion of any particular names therein. It is,
however, clear that the final and overall responsibility must rest on General Yahya Khan, Lt. Gen.
Pirazada, Maj Gen. Umar, Lt. Gen. Mitha. It has been brought out in evidence that Maj. Gen. Mitha
was particularly active in East Pakistan in the days preceding the military action of the 25th of
March 1971, and even the other Generals just mentioned were present in Dacca along with Yahya
Khan, and secretly departed there on the evening of that fateful day after fixing the deadline for the
military action. Maj. Gen. Mitha is said to have remained behind. There is also evidence that Lt.
Gen Tikka Khan, Major Gen. Farman Ali and Maj. Gen Khadim Hussain were associated with the
planning of the military action. There is, however, nothing to show that they contemplated the use of
excessive force or the Commission of atrocities and excesses on the people of East Pakistan.
December 17th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
The same Biharis have now tied with the Lashkar -e – Tayyaba and are waging guerilla war against India, giving Bangladesh a bad name.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
When “Pakistan Army is the Best” writes abuses it is allowed on this forum, but when I do, they are not allowed. I have attempted to write but messages have been blocked. I will now attempt to write this in as civil a mannar as possible.
Pakistaini’s think that the whole world is wrong and that their owm news agencies and army are always correct. For nearly 40 years the entire world has known what happened during 1971 in Bangladesh. And 40 years you have not been able to disprove to the world a single allegation made against you. Everyone know the truth. When the war was going on hundreds of reporters from every corner of the world came to Bangladesh. They all saw what had happened, they all investigated the truth. All the most respectable news sources in the World had the same thing to say.
For the sake arguing with us you can say that each and every one of them was under Indian influence. That we threatened them and coerced them. But is that possible. If it is then even 40 years after that war why has none of them said anything. Why hasn’t the state of Bangladesh said anything to this day. It is only the Pakistani news agencies and only your country which denies the truth like the deniers of Holocaust. It is only because you want to save face.
Also the tone adopted by the Pakistanis here, implies that speaking against Pakistan is to speak against Islam and Islamic Brothers. Well sir, Pakistan has only 10% of the Muslim Population of the world. Even India has 10% Muslim popupalation of the world. You forget the rest of the muslims in countries like Singapore and the rest. As an Indian i have a dozen Muslim friends and I deeply respect the religion. I am also proud of of our Islamic culture, including music, architecture and food. The Taj Mahal is the Gem of my country. Even the most popular movie stars and artists in India are Muslims who are reverred by Millions in the Country.
I agree that we have committed atrocites against our muslim brothers. But we have been quick to realize our Mistake and make amends, Unlike you Pakistanis who even 40 years are not willing to accept your mistakes.
It is only Pakistan which has given religious overtones to our confrontation. We are not fighting against Pakistan because it is an Islamic state because our interests have been antagonistic in nature. India as a country has many Muslim states as Friends in the form of Afghanistan, Iran, Singapore, Malaysia, etc.
Also Please get over this thinking that the entire world is your enemy. Anything bad happens to the state of Pakistan due its own foolishness and mistakes and to you people it becomes a Global Conspiracy Against Pakistan. You people supported the Taliban, gave them arms, training and weapons to counter increasing Indian influence in Afghanistan. Today these very Muslims are killing you in your own Mosques. Then you blame India and the world for your woes. Not all Muslims are your friends and not all non-muslims your natural enemies. Till the time you don’t undestand this and stop mixing Religion with Politics nothing good can happen.
As your saying that you killed us like dogs in Kargil- HAAHAHAHAHAHA…lol…
Pakistan, by the admissions of it own leaders (Nawaz Sharif and other) and army sources lost 4000 Pakistani soldiers. And not a single inch of land was gained by you. Your Army and country lost internation respect and was globally humiliated by this debacle. India on the other hand lost less than 1000 soldiers. And then you go on to claim that Kargil was a success. HAAHAHAHAHAHA. Pakistani army is so used to defeat that for them even this was a great feat. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even with your soldeirs on such high peaks they could not withstand the Indian assaults and you continuously lost one Peak after another. Go to Google and Wikipedia and read before you say anything. And get your history right.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
@Don. You forget Mister that while Operation Searchlight of the Pakistani Army began in March of 1971 and war with India began in December of 1971. In the mean time the Pakistani army had all the time in the World to commit atrocities on the people of Bangladesh. It is possible that the figures are slightly exaggerated. Instead of maybe 3 million people maybe your army killed 2 million. But the decrease in number in no way decrease the magnitute and severity of the heinous crimes committed and the motive with which they were committed.
You people claim that Bangladeshis are your brothers and you want to save them. Then why were the Bangladeshi’s not allowed to form the government of Pakistan when the Awami League won a majority through the democratic process of elections, elections that were conducted by you. Because you always considered them inferior and you were power hungry and not willing to give them what was rightfully their’s. Then they fought for their rights and freedom and Bangladesh was created.
Can you come up with an explanation as to why the Bangladeshi’s were not allowed to form the Govt. ??
December 17th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
The Man in the video says that in 1965 India was taught a lesson. My Foolish neighbors, your county lost over 1,813 km2 while India lost only 777 km2 area. Even though we lost more aircrafts than you, Pakistan had higher caualities, higher tank losses and higher land losses. India was hailed as a power to be reckoned with in Asia by the entire world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965#Aftermath
Go to the above link and read, and if you don’t believe it, go read the neutral sources given at the bottom of the article. You peope have no idea of the truth. Go to google and read fools.
December 18th, 2009 at 1:57 am
PAK ARMY IS THE BEST. U JUST C N WATCH,
December 18th, 2009 at 2:00 am
i appreciate if you highlight Indian army possession in Jammu and Kashmir
u should focus on last may tragedy when two women raped be Indian soldier. and thousand of youngster killed since 1948. Shame on people OF INDIA
December 18th, 2009 at 6:23 am
@Arslan – Yes, Arslan the Pakistani army is the best – IN LOSING. In its history it has only won a few battles and not a single war. After the 1947 war, never has it achieved any of its ultimate war objectives. 1965 was a major failure. You people say it was a success because you defended Lahore. Well sir, we NEVER wanted Lahore. If we wanted Lahore why would we return the captured land of 1800 km2 after 1965, why would we return the captures land of West Pakistan after 1971? Stop being foolish and face the reality.
In 1971, 90000 Pakistani Soldiers surrendered. 90000!!!!!!!!!! Pakistan lost half its navy, a quarter of its airforce and a third of its army. Even on the Western Front Indian Army captured 13,000 km² which were returned to you as alms in The Simla Agreement.
Pakistan Army is the best. HAHAHAHAA
December 18th, 2009 at 6:31 am
@Arslan. – Yes, I agree atrocities have been committed. During Gujrat Riots, Mumbai riots, Babri Masjid and Kashmir. But the difference between you and us is that we have been honest enough to realise our mistake. We have taken steps to redress the wrongs. Because we in India try to respect our minorities, unlike Pakistan. Just because in a few parts of the country, a few people have committed these atrocities does not mean that the entire nation is responsible.
Even when we have talked about the atrocities of Paksitani Army and its failure, have I once blamed the ciizens of your country. This is because we know the difference between the people of a state and the state itself. I don’t think Pakistani’s are India’s enemies, I think it is the STATE of Pakistan which is our enemy.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Aniket! teri maa ko choda tha humari army nay.. is lie tu ghaand marwata rahta hai.. tu apni maa ki chut ki tareef karray ga hi .. phaar jo di thi hum nay.. maa lun jo marzi story banna le.. aisa kar.. apnay ghandoo general ko bol kay pakistan pay attack karray.. jaisay woh kahein bar kah kar apnay air force bhaij chukka hai.. aur phir humaray air force ko dekh kar tere pilot kuttay ki taran baagh chukkay hain…
jis taran kargal mein tere kalay petta nahi hindio ki kis zaaat kay faujio ko hum nay kuttay ki taran mara tha aur Jahanum kay aakhiri darjay mein bhaija tha… kabhi un army walo say ja kay pooch jin ki hum nay phatti hue bund aur phaar di thi kay woh aaj tak mentally itnay sick hain kay medical army kay lie unfit ho chukkay hain.. tu kham kha mein apni ghandoo buzdil army kay lie time zaiya kar raha hai.. hindo army aaj b is baat pay tappi hue hai kay un kay officer sirf choot zaat ko bund marwanay kay lie kion bhaij detay hain aur phir woh dar dar kay aakhir suside kar letay hain.. tu apni hi ghaand marwaye ja raha hai.. jo mein nay tujhay bola hai woh perh.. us ko tu parhta hi nahi aur ghaand mein lun le raha hai jo teri maa say aadat milli hai tujhay.. aur tere fauji kutto ki taran baaghay the.. poori duniya jaanti hai.. tu aisa kar apni marzi ki koi story banna le jis say tera dil khush hota hai.. mein to martay martay teen char hindo jahanum raseed kar kay maron ga.. is ka matlab.. humari state nahi.. humara bacha bacha hindio ki makaari.. dokha baazi.. gidhar baghtia.. shaitaani damagh.. asteen kay saampo say nafrat karta hai aur tum hindio say karta rehay ga.. aur tum logo ki ghaand waisay b phat jati hai.. jab humein dekhtay ho
December 18th, 2009 at 7:02 am
@Pakistan Army is The Best – HAHAHAHAHAAHA
teri paidaish hi gandi hai. is tarah ki bhasha hi teri zubaan hai. Main phir se apne aap ko tere jitna neeche nahin launga.
Just because you say something, the truth does not change. Go to Google and wikipedia and read about the history before you making tall and baseless claims. Everything I have said can be verified and checked.
The World knows the truth so do we. It makes no difference to us that you continue to live in a dream world created by your unwillingness to see the truth and by your Army.
By the way – list of abuses taught to you by your parents and society is impressive
December 18th, 2009 at 7:14 am
@Aniket.. tu neechay na aa.. tu hai hi neechay.. tu hai hi aik ghandoo ma ki haraam ki paidaish.. tu google aur wikipedia ki baat karta hai.. sara media hi is waqt americio ka hai aur america ki hi boli bolay ga.. tu jaaisi ghandoo qom in media ki chakkar mein hai.. jis nay aaj tak asal haqeeqat nahi dikhai.. apni phatti hue ghaand kaun dikhata hai.. tu yeh media b apnay aap ko kaisay sabat karray ga.. tere jaisay haraami ki boli wohi ho gi jo tujh ko dikhaye jae ga.. lekin ab aista aista sab khulta ja raha hai tum logo ki ghaand marwnay ki baatien aam hoti ja rehi hain.. jis taran mumbai attack mein tumharay hi aik oppostion party shamal thi jo baad mein khul gaya.. tum logo ki ghaandoo gheeri ab khulti ja rehi hai madarchod mera loray ki paidaish.. aur teri maa nay meray lun ka choopa laggatay hue mujhay yeh abusing sikhai thi kutti de bachaya
December 18th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
pakistan army best kise hai .. har roj border per terrorist ko border par kerwane main help kerti hai.. kitni bar army off. ka nam aaea hai terrorist ko train kerne main.. or aap log phir v kehte ho pak army best.. agar aap ki govt. india se larne ki bajye pak ke development k bare main soche to acha hai aap logon k liye v or hum indian k liye v … aur ek bat galiyan aap v nikal te ho aur hum v kion k jante hain k samne to kisi n aana nahi.. himat to samne bolne main hoti hai.. or indian muslman ki aap tension mat lo vo v india main khus hain yeh dais unka v hai or rhega.. aap dunia main kahi v jao har koi pak se nafrat kerta hai kabi sochna kiu….
December 18th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
@PakArmyZindabad: See, some people will never ever learn…. such a pity.
December 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
maa lun @na main hindu na musalman.. yeh hai tum logo ka kameena pan.. jab tum logo ki ghaand baj jati hai to apnay aap ko hindo b kahna chor detay ho.. teri do takkay ki boli say petta chal gaya hai kay tu aik hindo bharwa matarwa hai.. aur teri maa ki ghaand mein bohat say kalay lun gae hain tabhi to ab ghaand pharwa baitha hai.. tu aik ghandoo hai.. aur hindo ki yehi fitrat hai kay woh aik dam apna mazhab badal deta hai jab us ki ghaand phat jati hai.. tu aik ghandoo maa ka haraami bacha hai.. aur sun kali kutti kay bachay.. yeh jo tere maa lun media aisi baatien phailta hai tu b us ki ghaand mein say nikla aik keera hai jo un ki baaton mein aagaya hai.. jab kay dashat gardi kay sab say zaiyda aadday duniya men jews moosaad kay baad indian raw kay hain.. aur pakistan mein her bomb dhamka indian raw karwata hai.. jab kay tumharay ghandoo hakumat nay khood hi bombay attack karwa kay baghair saboot kay pakistan pay alzaam lagga dia.. lekin baad mein woh khood hi niklay.. issi taran teri ghaand mein b media ka keera ghus gaya hai jaisay teri maa ki ghaand say tu bohat jaldi mu phaar kay bahar nikal aaya tha.. aur tere jaisay maa lun hindo bharwo ki ghaand aisi hi bajti rehay gi.. ja bachay ja kay tv dekh kar koi aur khabar sun kar idher post kar.. mein phir teri ghaand kholta hoon
December 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
@na main hindu na musalman ma lun kutti kay bachay.. himmat ki baat karta hai.. mein tere jaisay ghandoo bharwo hindio say daron ga.. maa lun.. tere jaisay ghandoo 100 hindio kay lie mein akaila hi kafi hoon.. teri ghaand mein say phool nikal jae gi teri..afsos tu abhi mere samnay hota to tu dekhta teri ghaand kaisay phaarta hoon mein.. madarchod haraam kay pillay.. tum hindio bharway mujhay say samna karnay ki baat karta hai.. maa lun teri poori nasal ki bund mein akaila phaar sakta hoon.. kalay marrasi kanjeri wahsiha qom ab mujh say aisi baat karray
December 18th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
sale maa aur bahan me fark nahin samjh aata aur tumlog kya karoge aur kis dream me ji rahe ho abhi tak ek gov nahin bani pakistan me aur tumlog democracy ki baat karte ho pahle apne gand me iodex malo kyon ki indian army ne jo gand mara tha abhi tak dard khatam nahin hua hoga aur land me bahut khujali hogayi hai to apni maa ko bol bahan se gujaris karegi kyonki tumlogon me to ye sab chalta hin hai sale jo khatna karwate ho na abki baar pura pajistan land sahit ukhad denge samjhe aur pak army kamino ki tarah har baar war pechey se hamla karti hai phir bhi haar jati hai koi baat nahin is baar apni maa ko bolna america walon ki raat bhar seva karegi to sayad is baar koi chance ho kya …………………………………
December 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
@Indian hero.. teri maa bahno ko chod kay tum ghaandio ko paida kia hia aur ab kutta hero ban baitha hai maa lun pehlay bolna seekh kutti kay bachay teri maa ka phudda phaar tujhay paida kia hai ab baap say bolay ga.. teri maa ki ghaand mein jo keera tha jo us nay tujhay bahar nikaal pay bolnay kay lie chor dia .. maa lun apni maa ki dalaali kar kay hero banta hai.. aur teri maa jo mera lun ka choopa lagga tere lie paisay le kar aati hai takay tu idher aakay india hero ban kar dialogue bol sakkay.. munna pehlay baap say bolna seekkh.. phir apni ghaand marwanay ka falsafa bol.. aur yeh jo tu nay likha hai teri maa b ghaand marwa kay nahi samajh sakti.. pehlay thora mere lun ko pakar kar mujh say sabaq le.. jaisay teri indian government hum say bund marwa kay leti hai.. aur teri hindio sipahi humaray khauf say sucide kartay hain.. kham kha mein ghaand pharwanay aagaya hai.. pehlay apnay kissi aik sipahi ko dhoodh jo mot say na darta ho aur teri maa ki taran dalair ho jo truck bhar kay b teri maa ki ghaand bajjanay aajaien to nahi darti.. tum log.. aik ghandoo hindio bharwo ho.. jin logo ki fitrat mein shamal hai kay tum log kabhi aamnay samnay nahi aasaktay.. aur peechay say hamla kar kay b tum log ghaand marwa kay baagh jatay ho.. tu pehlay apnay india mein koi aik soldier dhoodh jo hum say na darta hoon.. kutti kay bachay jab aisa mil gaya to phir apni ghaand marwanay aana.,… teri maa ki ghaand mein jitnay loray gae hain.. tab tujh jaisay ghandoo nikla hai .. aur ghaand marwa kar phir baaghay ga jaisay tu jaisay hindio ki fitrat mein hai.. salay kalay .. naachnay ganay walay log .. baat kartay hain .. kutti de bachya
December 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
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The war of 1971
Main articles: Bangladesh Liberation War and Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
Faced with popular unrest and revolt in East Pakistan, the Army clamped down through violence. The army crackdown and brutalities during the Operation Searchlight and the continued killings throughout the later months resulted in further resentment among the Bengalis of East Pakistan. With India assisting the Mukti Bahini, war broke out between the separatist supporters in Bangladesh and Pakistan (Indo-Pakistani War of 1971). The result was the Pakistan Army’s surrender to the Indian forces upon which 90,000 Pakistani soldiers and 90,000 militants became POWs, the largest since World War II. The official war between India and Pakistan ended in just a fortnight on December 16, 1971, with Pakistan losing East Pakistan which became Bangladesh.The war of 1971
Main articles: Bangladesh Liberation War and Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
Faced with popular unrest and revolt in East Pakistan, the Army clamped down through violence. The army crackdown and brutalities during the Operation Searchlight and the continued killings throughout the later months resulted in further resentment among the Bengalis of East Pakistan. With India assisting the Mukti Bahini, war broke out between the separatist supporters in Bangladesh and Pakistan (Indo-Pakistani War of 1971). The result was the Pakistan Army’s surrender to the Indian forces upon which 90,000 Pakistani soldiers and 90,000 militants became POWs, the largest since World War II. The official war between India and Pakistan ended in just a fortnight on December 16, 1971, with Pakistan losing East Pakistan which became Bangladesh.
le pad le harami madharchod phir bak bak karte rahna ……………………………
December 18th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
indian hero madarchod.. naachnay ganay nanga phirnay walay ab mujh say baatien choday ga.. tum logo mein to aik rupay mein randi mil jati hai par tum logo ko roti nahi milti.. haraam zaday teri bahn ka phudda aik ropay mein b mahnga hai woh to aath aanay mein apna phudda pharwati hai.. indian kay hero.. tum logo ki zindagi naach ganay aur bund marwanay mein khatam ho jati hai.. tum logo kay hindo baniya aisay nahi boltay aur tu kis baat pay itna ghumand kar raha hai.. teri maa bahnien apna phudda pharwa kay tujhay hero banna baithi hai.. teri kali army jo aik goli dekhti hai to kuttay ki taran baaghti hai.. pehlay un say ja kay un ki halat to dekh.. phir apni maa ki ghaand jo pharwata aaya hai tu hero bannanay kay lie aur pharwana… haramai nasal kay.. bhookay nangay logo ka mulk aur baat karta hai .. kam az kam ja kay kargal mein zinda bach janay walay kissi aik kuttay say us ki kahaani sun le.. phir bolna.. tum hindu logo ki randia goray kay baad sab say zaiydati chodwati hain.. poori net site bhari hai tum hindio ki ghaand pharwanay wali randio say… tum logo mein maaien bahien kahan say aagae
December 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Further information: Kargil order of battle
There were three major phases to the Kargil War. First, Pakistan infiltrated forces into the Indian-controlled section of Kashmir and occupied strategic locations enabling it to bring NH1 within range of its artillery fire. The next stage consisted of India discovering the infiltration and mobilizing forces to respond to it. The final stage involved major battles by Indian and Pakistani forces resulting in India recapturing some territory held by Pakistani forces and the subsequent withdrawal of Pakistani forces back across the Line of Control
ye le aur padh aur ye sab bhi net pe hin hai aur sale benazir bhutto ki to maa chod di tumhare apne hin logon ne phir tumhen kisi aur ki kya jarurat hai kyon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,…………..??????????
December 18th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Guys Ignore Pakistanis as i said they will never learn even going bankrupt day by day. They cant see India progressing and are jealous of it being one of the fastest growing countries. India is future world power and should think that way. They can blast pakis anytime they want.
For Pakistanis: Please forget about fighting with India and think about returning your loan to IMF. This time they saved you from going bankrupt and will not save you again
December 18th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Who says Pakistan army is better trained than indians. This is the same misconception pakis had in 1971 and result whole world knows cowardly surrender and this your so called brave soldiers were captured and than returned by india on pakistan’s plea. (90000 of them). so learn something from history.
pakistan govt is so scared that they are rushing like headless chicken for last 1 month. Listen to your primeminister’s speech and he called the whole world leaders to tell India not to attack pakistan and President zardari said India please don’t punish Pakistan and also said to French news channel Indian have 4800 tanks we cant stop them. See the scare on your leaders faces and than talk about mighty indian army. Live in real world.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
INDIAN MILITARY WILL CROSS $100 BILLION MARK BY 2015,……………….AND STORIES ARE MORE ,,,,,,,HEAR THIS,
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…….ESSAR AN INDIAN STEEL COMPANY HAS LARGEST STEEL PLANT IN USA.
………OUR OIL REFINERY IN JAMNAGAR IS WORLD’S LATGEST AND WE DEAL WITH 95% OF WORLD’S DIAMONDS AND EVERY YEAR INDIANS BUY 55% OF WORLD’S ANNUAL GOLD PRODUCTION.
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…THERE ARE FOUR INDIANS IN WORLD’S TOP TEN RICHEST PEOPLE LIST……….AND THERE ARE 40 BILLIONAIRES IN OUR NATION MORE THAN CHINA AND JAPAN COMBINED AND THIRD HIGHEST IN THE WORLD.
..OUR TATA TEA IS WORLD’S LARGEST TEA COMPANY,TATA STEEL WORLD’S FIFTH LARGEST, NRI’S ARCELOR MITTAL IS WORLD’S LARGEST,TCS IS WORLD’S 4TH AND ASIA’S LARGEST IT COMPANY.
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…………ETC. ETC.
…………….NOW TELL WHERE YOUR RUBBISH NATION STANDS?
December 19th, 2009 at 12:40 am
@indian hero..
teri baato aur harkato nay mujhay teri maa ki yaad dalla di.. tu bilkul apni maa pay gaya hai.. woh b mujhay aisay hi bolti thi.. andar karo na aur vich karo plz plz..
mujhay aisa lagta hai kay tujh jaisa intelligent bacha meri hi najaiaz aulaad hai..
teri maa b mujhay impress karnay kay lie roz nit naye position bannaya karti thi..
jis taran viagara nay kahien budho ko jawaan kar dia.. is taran google nay bohat say jahilo ko aur jahil banna dia..
kion itni mahnat kar raha hai jab kion google say search maar maar kay copy paste kar raha hai..
ab hindo kuttay ki army b kabhi brave ho sakti hai
chal tu aisay nahi maanta
chal ghandoo yeh pictures hi dekh lein..
jis ki army kay ghandoo ka humien dekh kar paishaab nikal jata hai
http://my.opera.com/shahroon/blog/2009/02/28/wahga-border
waqiye indian army is very brave..
nazar aaraha hai..
ja kay kissi apni kissi army wali say pooch phir bolna..
kham kha mein janay baghair hi apni ghandoo army ki tareef karray ja raha hai..
December 19th, 2009 at 2:16 am
Mujha is baat per koi shak nahi hay ka Sajid Sahib yahodiyon ka us mission ko takmeel tak lana ka liya sargaram han jo un ka Muslims ko ganda karna aur unha duniya sa khatam karna ka hay. App pehla bi Pakistan Army ko degrade karna ka liya bohat kuch likh chuka ho. But i being a Pakistani i proude on myself and also on my Army. You and ur ugly mind and aslo the enemy of Great Pakistan knows very well that this country will live forever just due to the power of Islam and after due to the power of our army. You only see what Muslims do, but you dont see what ur family (hindu, yahodi) doing in Palistine and Kashmir. You just read the history which is written accourding to your mind, just read Quran you will get what will happend in future.
We know very very well that ur family is our bigest enemy, but remember that we are your bigest enemy. Just wait for few years whats happed with you in afghanistan. Ameria will not remain any more Insha Allah.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:47 am
@Pakistan Army is the Best. – Tum Hindustan ko khatam karne ki baatien to pichle 60 saalon se kar rahe ho. Aaj tak kya ukhad liya? Pehle apna desh sambhalo aur phir auron ki sochna. Aaj ke din Muslims, jinko tum apna samajhte ho vo tumhe hi tumhara masjid mein martien hain. Roj Pakistan mein bomb blast ho rahein hein. Tumhara aadha desh jungle bana hua hai. Apne hi desh mein jung lad rahe ho. Neend se jago. Get out of imaginary world.
@aki – What power of your Army? 1/2 of Navy, 1/4 of Airforce of Pakistan was destroyed in 1971. 1/3 of your army surrendered!!! 1/3 or 90000!!!!! They watched while your country was ripped apart. Even today your Army has sold you country to the U.S. Your army begs for money and arms from them and do the bidding of that country. Billions of dollars are given as alms and then you are able to fight. Even your country is on the verge of bankruptcy and are surviving on U.S aid. Pakistan is beggest reciever of U.S aid. Pehle apne paaron par khade hone ki kabiliyat to rakho.
December 19th, 2009 at 6:07 am
I thought education/literacy helped people gain something up their minds.. But.. Either people don’t have access to it in Pakistan or they are just fickle minded.
On visiting Pakistan.. Either you see innocent people (down to earth, Indian loving) or fuckin’ arseholes..*
Have you Pakistanis ever imagined how snail you are? You are sick!!! Shame on you Bastards.. You are living because of US n CHINA givin u aide that is meant either to be used against INDIA or towards HUMANITY.. Have you people produced or come up with something of your own??? Cars??? Nuclear power??? Weapons??? Strategies??? Economy???
What is Kashmir??? Who covers it.. India or Pakistan??? Let people of Kashmir decide that.. Who the bloody hell you are Mother fuckers..??* POK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir) is something coward/cruel.. It’s the strategy of America n China so that we don’t unite..
Even after this.. INDIA wants to shake hands but you people ditch everytime! And if people like IBRAHIM SAJID, REHAN WAHEED n many many many INDIAN & PAKISTANI brothers want both the countries united.. You have an itch in your gross.. !!!
If you want to shake hand.. We offer to hug you brother.. We INDIANS consider you brother.. But if some tiny’tot is going like a stray’dog.. It’s the duty of his elders to teach him a lesson..
UNDERSTAND THE POLITICS OF US, CHINA, BRITAIN, etc. AGAINST BOTH OF US & SHAKE HANDS..
OR………..
LICK our ASS..
*Pardon my language fellas.. its for illiterate people like HABIB-UR-REHMAN, SAIMA, ARSEHOLES who don’t write their names[Pak army best n pak army zindabad].. @REHMAN-SAHIB: money is not everything.. IMAAN aur IZZAT bhi koi cheez hai.. @ARSEHOLES: Khaufzada kaun kis se hai.. duniya jaanti hai.. @SAIMA: get to know ISLAM first.. come to india.. more islamic followers are here who are peaceful.. @Rafi hawat hossain: Uncle ji.. SAT SRI AKAL.. its gud to c old ppl lyk u to guide us here.. but with all due respect.. interpretations are always there. am nt sayin ur nt correct bt whole of ur knowledge certainly isn’t correct especially when there are historians in numbers who don’t carry the same opinion..
NAMASTEY
SALAAM
GOODBYE
!!GURFATEH!!
December 19th, 2009 at 6:18 am
@Pakistani Army is the Best – HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
yahi tumhari bhool hai aur yahi tumhari kamzori. Tum India – Pakistan ko Hindu – Muslim ki ladai mante ho aur hum nahin. Haan Ghori ne Prithvi lo haraya tha. The to dono Indian hi. India hamesha se tha aur Pakistan to kal hi bana hai. India par kain Sultans aur Mughals ne raj kiya. Aaj ke din bhi hum unke barien mein padhte hain. Aaj ke din bhi hum Taj Mahal ko apna mante hain. Aaj ke din bhi hum Akbar par garv karte hain. Aaj bhi hum unpe films banate hain, gazal aur sher sunte hain, sufi music sunte hain. Humare desh ka pichla President bhi Muslim tha. Humare mashoor actors, singers aur artists bhi Muslims hain.
Mere Muslim dost bhi bahut hain. We are proud of our Islamic traditions and have exported them to the world. And all this Islamic tradition is in our country is not Pakistani, but INDIAN. Akbar was badshah of Hindustan not Pakistan.
We have been here since centuries, whereas Pakistan is just a disillusioned child in front of us.
As for bravery and war. In 1971 India captured 13,000 km² of West Pakistani Land. Samne se lade the to sale phat gayi thi tumhari.
In 1965 India captured 1800 km2 land of Pakistan in Punjab!!! While you were able to capture only 770 km2 land of desert land in Rajasthan.
One Third of your army surrendered – 90000 soldiers, 1/3!!!!!! Within 14 days. And you call them brave
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Even in Kargil when India had left their forward posts, you people using stealth captured these positions. If your army was so brave why did they not capture these posts by attacking them when Indian soldiers were present there? You waited until winter when the enemy would not be there and then you captured these Posts like true cowards. We fought back and attacked from the front and captured these posts even though you had such high ground position. That is bravery. Not sneaking behind an enemy. By showing us one picture of a wet pant that too at Wagah Border which is peaceful, you wish to establish your supremacy. Well Sir, we have established our supremacy not on the basis of a picture, but on the Basis of the result of 3 WARS!!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Ghouri indian nahi muslims tha.. abhay mere pyaray maa kay loray Aniket
tu hindo hai aur muslims aur hindo alag alag nations hain..
hindo ghandoo ki yehi fitrat hai kay jab woh kuttay ki taran dum dabba kar baaghta hai to phir jo us ki ghaand maarta hai woh us ko apna yaar bolnay lag jata hai.. zaiyda hans na maa kay loray.. bilkul apni bahn ki taran hansta hai tu b.. teri haraam ki bahn b bohat hansti thi jab truck bhar kay banday us ki bund maarnay aajatay the to woh aagay say hans kay bolti thi.. bas itnay hi hain mera phudda kholnay kay lie..
maa kay loray.. hindio aur muslims kabhi aik nahi ho saktay..
samajhta nahi hai bilkul apni maa ki taran ziddi hai.. woh b bar bar marwa kay kahti thi bas aik bar aur phaar de meri…
matlab is ka matlab tu ab maan gaya hai kay tu hum muslims kay under hai..
chal aakhir tu maan hi gaya kay tum hindio humesha say muslims ki vajja say kamyaab rehay ho.. aur tum hindio ka naam muslims ki vajja say barqaraar hai .. varna kab kay tum hindio ki koi b ghaand maar kay nikal jata.. muslims ki hi vaja say tum hindio ki bund phatnay say bachi hue hai..
puttar kaha tha na.. na bharkien maar.. ab tu khood hi maan gaya hai ghandoo
December 19th, 2009 at 7:00 am
@PUSHPINDER SINGH NAYYAR
maa kay loray.. madarchod.. agar tu itna hi jaanta to yeh tujhay petta hota kay hum nay khood kisi ki help kay bagghair ghouri missle aur atom bomb bannaye hain jo tumharay ghandoo atom bomb say kahien zaiyda strong hain.. aur tum logo ki taran usa kay talway chaat kar nahi bannaye gae hain..
kutti de putra PUSHPINDER SINGH NAYYAR teri maa da phudda mein nay maara tha.. teri ghaand mein itni taqat hai tujh jaisay ghaandio sikh india mein b hinio kay talway chaat kar rahien tum jaisay ghandoo sikh apni maaien bahnien hindio say chodwa kar hindio kay hi gun gatay hain.. maa lun de bachay haraam ki nasal hai tumhari.. tum sikh logo ka asli baap zaiyda tar hindo hi nikalta hai kion kay tum logo apni maon bahno ko hindio kay aagay na baicho to tum logo zinda kaisay rehay.. kion kay hindo phir tumharay ghaand maarna shurru kar detay hain.. tum jaisay sikh ghaand india ko khush karnay kay lie apni maon bahno ko to hindio kay hawalay to kartay hi ho aagay say un hindio kay lunno ki tareefien b kartay phirtay ho.. buzdal jo ho ghandoo jo ho.. baghairat jo ho..
December 19th, 2009 at 11:51 am
abe begairat insaan insaan kahlane ke bhi layak nahin ho tum aur ye roz” pak army zindabaad” 111111111111111111111111111111111 bar bhi japoge na to bhi sach nahin badalne wala to chahe jo karle jitni galiyan aati hai padh le kyon ki pakistan me ya to har koi gaali bak sakta hai ya to bomb bana sakta hai to jo karna hai kar le par ek baat samajh le teri gand aaj america aur china sahla rahen hain na to kal ko maar bhi lenge isliye gaand kisi ke hawale nahin karte kya samjha ……….
December 19th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Saale Madarchod, Pakistani Army ke lund ke lotion se paida huye harami, Tum pakistani Musalto ki gand mein goli tabhi mar deni chahiye jab tum log gaand utha kar apne behenchod allah ko yaad karte ho. MAdarchod tu to apne mama ki hi aulad hoga kyunki tum log to apni hi beheno ko chodte ho. Are madarchod mujhe ek instance bata jisme Indian Army ne Pakistani Bahu betiyon ke saath ais kiya, Bohsdi ke tu jis PAkistani Army ki bat karta hai usi ne tujh jaise Muslamano ki bahu betiyon ko choda aur phir to agar unki tarfadari kar raha hai, Ja kar apni ma se pooch ki tera baap kaun hai…saale teri ma ki choot mein goli mar dete usi waqt to tujh jaisa haram ki aulad paida hi nahi hota. tum logo ki gaand mein dum ho to saamne se ladho, peeche se kya marte ho, are main to bol raha hun ki Indian Politics hai ki corrupt aur jiska fayda tum utha rahe ho aur Indian government ne abhi tak tum Pakistani Musalto ke gharo mein ghus kar tum logo ko kyun nahi kata, main wahi sochta hun. Pakistani Army ne Bangladesh mein auro ki bahu betiyon ko chodne se pehele apni hi ma aur beheno ko chodna shuru kiya hoga, tabhi tujh jaise Lund ke baal paida huye. Kabhi apni behen ya ma ko chode to batana kaisa laga.
December 19th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
@Hemant… will you please give me ur location and address please..
thanks
December 19th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
ab dekh lo india kay muslims b dekh lo.. hindo apni oqaat pay utaar aaya.. yahan par kissi nay hindio kay kissi god ko gaali nahi dee.. dikha dee hindo nay apni asli fitrat aur gaali de dee Allah Pak ko.. yehi hai tumhari biggest democracy…
@Hemant… kashmir mein roz rape kartay hain indian army.. khair janay de is baat ko..
please give me your real address and your real name .. if you really a son of your own father and not the son of your mom’s brother
December 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
@Hemant apna real address de.. varna sab ko petta chal jae ga kay tu apnay mama ki hi aulaad hai..
December 19th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
@PakArmyZindabad:
my dear no one can close this site and face the reality.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
@………….:
Brother i appreciate your comments but the question is first bengali now pushtoon how many you will kill face the reality. we donot know lawrence of arabia we donot know islamic history we donot know what Quran says we donot know what hadith says we donot know why muslims were attack for the first time after conquering lagre area of the world i am not going into details but the reason was we forgot jihad and struggle for khilaffah and we still sleeping the emerging of imam mehdi will be in form of khilafah we couldnot help Afghans ok no problem but why we killing those who go there and fight against americans becoz we are being paid to stop taliban from within the pakistan while they were never stop in Russia war the people around border are brothers have family relations how can they leave each other but for the sack of terrorism war we have presented ourself as free army for NATO if you see the word terrorism its taken from Quran see surah anfal third last part of surah Non muslims tell us everything what was ur status in the past they are calling us for fight but we are sleeping we will sleep until azab-e-elahi. what wud be that azab Allah knows better. And donot feel shame of being called terrorist be cool all of you and read Quran otherwise we should not relate ourself with the islam and everything. If suicide attacks are haram ok i agree then who helps yahood against muslims is munafiq Quran says that. we have given route to NATO air bases for the drones prophet says the blood and money of a muslim is more important than the KABBA. but we help the drone attacks our army protect the US air bases in baluchistan and this is killing of muslims. among so called alqaida leader there is always news of children and women deaths. who is killing who is helping. its a long story sorry to say in every institution we have Mir jaffers and Mir sadiqs. whether it is Amry politicians beuorocracy what can we do nothing we have no power to say we have as public have no right to say right things. Media is totally secular Army is secular politicians secular beuorocracy is secular then where is pakistan ka matlab kia laillaha illah have we forgotten the Quran as constitution we had enough time to impose Quran as supreme law but we didnot but Allah is watching we wasted the sacrifices given by the people for the sack of laillaha illah and our time is going away now either we need more sacrifices in the name of laillaha illah or declare this country as a secular state. then lets see who wins Allah or secularism. and donot ask me which islam of which sect and some bogus questions. we have everything in front we have history of islam Quran Hadith. finally i will tell you the first attack on Muslims in spain before that no crusader dared to attack muslims.
the king bordering to spain was waiting to attack muslims so he sent a spy on the border to get information he saw a 16 years old child crying he asked why you crying the child said i want to join army and my mom says first complete your quranic studies but i want to fight for islam. the spy came back and told his king you cannot attack right now. after 30 years they sent another spy and he saw a child crying the spy asked why u crying he said i asked my mom to buy a she-slave for me but she denied. he came back and told his king yes we can attack now and they did and after that they were always on top of muslims until now. we donot feel pitty for the muslims being killed in palestiine we donot even know the importance of AQSA mosques and we are such busy in pakistan saying we not responsible for other muslims why what happen to us brothers why we turned our back to our muslims. and the result is everything is going away from our hands. we must realise our duties. we have best soldiers. but we need to use them in the right ways. we can hit israel. this is the biggest threat. the day when pakistan neuclear is down jews will announce their control on earth. its very easy for them to push down USA. see what has been said in Hadith about end of time. we are just so busy looking into army of pakistan. say Allah is enough for our help. when ever muslims won the battle in Muhammad PBUH time Allah said i gave you victory, once in hunein muslims were 12000 and kuffar were 10000 and muslims run away because muslims start to say we always won when we were less but time we are more so we will easily but look what Allah did he made muslims runaway but only 100 people stood with prophet and they won the battle. Quran is full of such things. Always its the Allah who helps. i hope we should not be demoralized by the indians just ignore them we should look into what we are? and why is this happening to us.
Wasalam
December 19th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
@Hemant
here is a prove of hindus that they married to their sister and mothers..
Raja Dahir is described as a cruel king, who went on to marry his own sister and was involved in piracy.
and the Hindu’s Women wrote the letter to Muslim’s Raja to save them from the Cruel Hindu Raja..
and Muhammad Bin Qasim comes to teach that hindu raja..
this is the hindus nature.. you only say.. i now proved it that hindu married to their mothers and sister and at that time.. they call muslims to help them bcoz hindus also know this that a muslim always help the poor pity people
@Hemant
do you have even a single example in your history..
December 20th, 2009 at 4:33 am
madarchod k pillon ek baar pakistan army samne akar nahi ladi ……samne aane par tumhari maa chud jaa ti hai…pakistan army….kutte ki tarah pal rahe ho tum ….aukat kuch karne ki hai nahi …lekin maa jarur chudwaoge apni pakistan army zindabad kehke kuch karke toh dikhae toh sahi…sale tum khud ek badi gali ho….pakistani kahinke thookti hai poori duniya tumhare moo par aur tum wahi thook chat te ho….behen k lode
December 20th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
vibhor.. kutta ka pilla tu aur teri hindu nasal hai.. kion kay raja dahir say nisbat rakhnay walay zahir hai haraam kay hi hotay hain jaisay kay tu aur saray hindu hain maa bahon ko jo chodtay hain..
aur history dekh india nay humesha pakistan par raat kay andhairay mein kutti ki taran war kia aur phir bund pharwa kay baagh baithay.. india nay humesha aadhi raat ko chup kar hamla kia aur ghaand pharwa baithay.. lekin haraam ki nasal kay hindo ko kya farq parta hai zahir hai raja dahir say nisbat rakhnay walay hindo to haraam kay hi hotay hain.. apni maon bahno ko hi chodtay hain.. aur phir yahan net pay hero bannay kay lie aajatay hain… harami pillay jo hue..
December 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
@Pakistan Army is Best:
December 21st, 2009 at 1:17 pm
chote bhai …..put your enery in some productive work .itni galiyan dena achi baat nahi h ………look out for dreams & try to make them true
regards
Vivek Singh Gathwala
@Pakistan Army is Best:
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 am
Indian Propaganda in 1971 is still alive……… Of course Robert Payne also said enough. But remember mark Tully BBC corespondent in Bangladesh in 1971 who sent the fake news to the whole world and also have suspicious character at time.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 am
26112008 ko mat bhulo , aaj bhi mumbai par attack karne wale pakistani atankwadio ki body yeha par padi padi sad rahi hai, kehne ko to chale the allah ki rah me jehad ke naam par, to fir kaamyabi kyu hasil nahi hui,kyo sabhi ke sabhi nsg cammando ki goli se chalni ho gaye, mar kar ek saal beet chuka hai..jannat to door ki baat unhe kafan aur jamin bhi naseeb nahi ho rahi hai.kya yeha par muslim nahi hai, aree tum se jayada hai,
ek atankwadi ajmal aamir kasaab ko allah miya ne jinda kyu pakadwaya, isi liye ki woh tumhari kartuto ki poll khole, jo log islaam , muslim ke naam ko badnaam karenge to unka hashra bhi uperwala isi tarah karega.
yeh mat bhulo bharat ki is sarzameen par jaha ram rehta hai wahi rahim bhi rehta hai.kayi peer fakeer is bharat ki sarzameen ko apne mathe se lagaya hai, aur wahi par apna aashiya banaya hai, usi paak zameen ko tum apni naapaak irado se mat dekho.
kyu ki agar kisi din in peer fakiro ki baddua tumhe lag gayi to hame kuch nahi karna pade ga, tum uhi apni maut mare jaaoge.
jab jab pakistan ne baharat ki taraf galat nazro se dekha hai,.tab tab uski ankh phooti hai.
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:33 am
@Pakistan Army is the best – You give isolated and individual examples to paint a religion or community. If individuals throughout the history of a community are to be representatives of the people, then I gave can give you examples to prove foolishness, low standards of morality,cruelty, incestous nature, of muslims, I can give you any expamples. Go visit the the sites below. They are posts by Muslims (read the date to know that it is not fabricated)
http://www.islam-watch.org/iw-new/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=170:muslim-father-can-i-have-an-incest-relationship&catid=65:khan&Itemid=58
http://www.islam-watch.org/iw-new/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=170:muslim-father-can-i-have-an-incest-relationship&catid=65:khan&Itemid=58
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7103292.stm
But as I have said before, I have not come here to insult or degrade the people of particular community or religion. I respect the Religion of Islam and I respect Muslims and also respect the Prophet Mohammed. I have many Muslim friends. You say that Hindus and Muslims can never be one country. Sir, Hindus and Muslims were always one Country prior to Partition. We speak the same language, we eat the same food, we apreciate the same art. Even though we have different beliefs, we have shared the same values. I am certainly glad that not many people think like you.
The Indian Pakistani conflict is conflict of Nations. You have made it to be a conflict of two religions. You are also under the belief that Pakistan is the only representative of Islam and Muslims.This belief is really laughable.
Atleast in India, Muslims can send their daughter to school without the Taliban blowing or destroying the school. At least Muslims can express their own freely views without the fear of Taliban. They can make a free choice to follow their rligion not according to the teachings of Fanatics. At least Muslims don’t fight each other as Shia or Sunni in this country. Peple like Hemant who abuse Islam are most certainly in a small Minoriy. If that had not been the case would Muslims still be living in our country? You most certainly “purged” your country of Hindu’s almost completely.
Stop spreadinfg hatred and dividing us on religious lines only to serve selfish interests.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
indian kay suriya.. tu filmi dialogue bol kar cha gaya yaar..
kya baat ki hai.. ghandoo.. india nay pakistan pay humesha bhurri nazar rakhi.. lekin kya hua kuttay ki taran jahanum raseed hue indian kay..
aur mumbai dramay ki kya baat karta hai.. us ka pol to sari duniya mein ab khul chukka hai.. tu abhi tak be khabar hai.. chal yaar jab subah teri mata ghaand marwa kay wapas aaye gi tu ussi say pooch lena.. raat ko mere saaath laitay gi to karwai kay baad us ko story b batta doon ga bombay ghandoo attack dramay ki.. acha abhi sunna chahta hai kya.. chal phir aisa kar net pay hi search maar kay dekh le .. kion kay hindio kay is dramay ka pole khul chukka hai.. aur haan yaar.. woh tere bohat say haraam kay pillay indian army ki laashien kab kay cheel kaway chaat kay hag b gae.. aur wohi haraam kay indian jo humaray haatho kargal mein kuttay ki mot marray the aur bach janay walay brave indian soldier apnay hi saathio ki laashien chor kar baagh gae the
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
mere dost……..pehli baat,mera naam surya indian hai, suriya nahi, naam to thik se lena sikho….chalo apne muh se kabula na ki mai chaa gaya.indian har jagah chha jaata hai…tareef ke liye thanks yaar….
kyu sach baat hajam nahi hoti naa….kya mumbai me aaye atankwadi tere sagewale the….islye gaand me mirchi lagi….muh se gali nikalni lagi, abe madarchod ki aulaad…
tum jaise harami log hi apne maa behan ka sauda kar sakte hai…. kyu teri maa roj raat ko duniya ke saath so kar subah tujhe india ki taaji kahani sunati hai…
us se yeh poonch lena un me se tera baap kaun hai…abe haram ke jane…hamari maa behen ki fikar karna chod de,
aur apna ghar sambhal, nahi to tere padosi tere maa behen ki gaand maar kar tere baap ko salam karke nikal jayenge….harami salo tumko tedhi baat hi samajh me aati hai….
indian kahawat suni hai naa,,,, maango to kheer denge….agar apni gaand marwai to cheer denge….
rahi baat kargil ki woh indian army nahi balki pakastani army thi jo apne shahid huae jawan ,jo pakistan ke liye ladh rahe the, shaheed hone par unke laasho ko chod bhaag kahade huae,
aur unhe pechaan ne se inkaar bhi kar diya.
yeh to indian jawano ki dariyadili thi dost,jinho ne pakistani shahido ko pure muslim riti riwaaj aur maan sanmaan ke saath dafnaya, nahi to unki lasho ko cheel kauway chaat kar hag b jate.
jiska pakistan ko chod puri duniya gawah hai….aur yeh koi filmi dialouge nahi hai yeh ek hakikat hai, jise pakistani army kabhi apne awaam ko nahi bataygi.
india ko samajhne me tum ko 60 saal bhi kam padh rahe hai, lekin india ne tumlogo ko 60 saal pehle hi samajh liya tha,jara kuch bate karne se pehle uski study kar liya karo,
study suni sunai baato par nahi balki hakikat par.haa hakikat shayad tumhe hajam na hoo.
uper wale allah, mujhe maaf karna maine to aapke bande ko sahi rah ka aihsaas dilaya tha, lekin jawaab me mujhe aur meri maa ko tere bande se gali raseed hui,
is liye mujhe usko uski aukaat dikhani padi.
is tarah ke muslim tere naam aur islaam dharam ko badnaam karte hai…………
December 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Ok.. lets do this.. India u won every battle (just for the argument sake)and Pakistan is the worst country on the planet and commited astrosties all over the world, harbours terrorism….
now please go and watch a 9 episode series on youtube.. 1st episode, part one is at this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTPCjsvOjWw&feature=related
and the last punch is ours.. and its not very far in time.. i hope that we are still living when one of the indian main stream politions (prolly one of the Ghandhis embrases islam -as predicted in these vidoes) and in the next 50 years we have the long awaited ghazwa-e-hind
till then u can enjoy all you want india.. ur days are numbred
December 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
@surya indian.. madar chod.. teri maa ko tera mama chota raha hai.. aray yeh tum logo mein hota hai.. hindio apni hi maa bahno ko chodtay hain.. aur teri maa ki kaali ghaand tere mamay kay ilawa bohat say logo nay chodi hai jis vaja say tu paida hua hai ghandoo maa lun kay bachay… teri bahn ki ghaand mein tu nay lun dia to teri bahn ko parwa nahi thi lekin jab teri bahn nay mera lun lia to us ki ghaand phat kay khoona khoon ho gae..
ja kay dekh le apni kali bahn ki phatti hue ghaand surya indian..
maa lun tum logo ki history kya hai hindio ghandio.. tumharay apni hindo maa bahnien Muslimsn ko letter likh kar madad maanga karti thi..
ja kay dekh Raja Dahir ki history.. yeh muslims hi the jo tum logo ki maon bahno ki izat ki hafazat karnay kay lie aik letter pay hazaro miles ka safar kar kay tum logo ko tumharay hi hindio ghandio kay zulm say nijaat dallanay kay lie aatay the.. aur phir tumharay baray baray hindo ghandoo raja aik hi jhatkay mein zameen chaatnay lagtay the..
ab bari baatien karta hai.. aisay nahi baatien karta tu.. haraam ki nasal say jo hai.. hindio to hotay hi harami hai.. Raja Dahir say jo tauluq rakhtay hain…
December 24th, 2009 at 1:39 am
u r son of a beach.sajad.kotay kay bachay.harami .
December 24th, 2009 at 10:34 am
abey pakistan army zindabad k chodey…………ye maa lun k bache kya laga rakha hai.bhosdike iske aage tallem nahi dilayi tere madarchod abba ne…..behen k lode katue saale har baar to pite ho tb bhi akad hai bhenchod.jis din chatak gayi na hamari ghar me ghus k cheer denge.n tumhari aukat itni bhi nahi hogi ki sar utha k dekhlo.gardane jo uda denge tumhari bhadwe saale…….moo kam hi chalaya kr
December 24th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Rahul maa lun kay bachay.. madar chod.. teri maa ko bohat say ghaandio nay choda hai tab tujh jaisa haraam ka pilla bahar aaya hai.. maa lun .. takleef ho rehi hai .. raja dahir jaisay log ho tum sach karwa lag raha hia.. maa lun kay bachay teri maa ki kaali ghaand bohat say logo nay phaari hai to tujh jaisa ganda keera ghaand marwanay kay lie bahar aaya hai.. kutti ghandoo maaa kay harami pillay Rahul.. teri bahn apna kala phudda pharwa pharwa kay aati hai aur tu yahan ghaand marwanay kay lie aagaya hai.. maa lun.. tere hindio ghaandio mein itni himmat hoti humaray samnay kharra honay ki to teri apni saggi maien bahien muslims ko madad kay lie na bullaya karti.. history dekh.. haraami nasal kay aakhiri ghandoo kutti de putra.. harami tere jaisay ghandoo to mein akaila jahanum raseed kar sakta hoon.. tere jaisay gattar ki paidaisho kay lie mein akaila kafi hooon.. tere jaisay yehan par baray ghandoo aaye… sab hi apni maon bahno ki ghaand pharwa kay baagh gaye ab tu aa haraam kay jannay hue
December 24th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
SUN BETA PAKISTAN, BAAP HAI TERA HINDUSTAN,,,,,,
PAKISTAN ARMY IS BEST KE BACHHEY. BAAP SE ADAB SE BAAT KARNA TUJHE NAHI SIKHAYA GAYA HYA,,JAB DEKHO EK HI GALI FIX..GANDOO.GANDOO..PUCHTA KYA HAI LA DE TERI GAAND AISA PHADU GA NA SALE HARAMI, AGAR PURA PAKISTAN BHI MIL KE TERI PHATI GAAND KO SINE BEHTE NA TO BHI NAHI SI PAYENGE., KALI GAND PELI GAAND, PHUDI, LORAY, SALE S KE AULAD DIN BHAR APNI MAA BEHAN KE GAAND AUR PHUDA HE COLOUR HI DEKHTE REHTA HAI KI KOI AUR BHI KAAM KARTA HAI,
TERE MAMA PE JARA WATCH RAKHA KAR, TU IDHAR BLOG PAR LIKH RAHA HOGA AUR WOH UDHAR TERI MAA KE SAATH TERA MAMA SOYA HOGA,NAHI TO TERE JAISE EK AUR NASAL PAIDA HO JAAYEGI.ABHI TO TUMHARI GAAND PHADNE KE LIYE HUM BAARA LOG HI KAAFI HAI.BLOG PAR TUMHARE JAWAAB SE HI PATA CHALTA HAI KI HUM BAARA NE TUMHARI KITNI GAAND PHADI HAI..BUS RAJA DHIR KI HI HISTORY PADHNA, USKE LIYE MERE PAAS EK HI JAWAAB HAI….RAJA DHIR KI BHI MAA KI CHUT AUR TERI BHI.SALE SADE HUAE PAANI KE NATIJE..AUKAAT ME REHNA TUM JAISE KAYAR PAKISTAN KI DHARTI PAR EK DHABBA HO, JISE TALIBAAN MITA RAHA HAI.
December 24th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
LAGE RAHO SAJID BHAI, SACHAI KE KALAM KE AGE DUNIYA JHUKTI HAI.
HAA KUCH LOGO KO SACHAAI HAJAM NAHI HOTI…..
December 25th, 2009 at 8:15 am
The detailed judgment in the case of the restoration of the Chief Justice of Pakistan on July 20, 2007 reveals that not only Pervez Musharraf but the then Director General ISI and the DG Military Intelligence (MI) had also insisted that the chief justice resign during his illegal detention at the Army House Rawalpindi on March 9, 2007.
The judgment, penned by Justice Khalilur Rehman Ramday, says: “The petitioner CJP went on to depose that ‘the respondent (the president) insisted that the deponent (the CJP) should resign’. He added that his refusal to oblige, ‘ignited the fury of the respondent (the president); he (the president) stood up angrily and left the room along with his MS, COS, and the prime minister of Pakistan, saying that others would show evidence to the deponent’ (about the allegations of misconduct against the CJP).”
“As per the CJP, his meeting with the president lasted for about thirty minutes meaning thereby that the president and the prime minister would have left by about 12.15/12.30 pm and the CJP was then left behind in the company only of the DG MI, the DG ISI allegedly to be shown the evidence in support of the above-noticed accusations.
The CJP alleged that no evidence at all was shown to him and “in fact, no official except DG ISI had some documents with him but he also did not show anything to the deponent” (the CJP). He added that they only accused him of having secured a seat for his son in Bolan Medical College while he was serving as a judge of Balochistan High Court. “The CJP further alleged that the DG MI and the DG ISI kept insisting that he should resign from his office while he continued to assert strongly that the allegations were baseless and were being levelled only for a collateral purpose and that he would not resign at any cost and would rather face the said false charges.”
The judgment states, “While the CJP was still at the President’s Camp Office in Rawalpindi during the said crucial ‘FIVE HOURS’ and when according to the CJP he was being detained there against his wishes after 12 noon and when according to the respondents he was sitting there, in the company of the intelligence chiefs examining the reference and the material available in support thereof, a notification dated March 9, 2007, was issued by the Government of Pakistan in the Law, Justice and Human Rights Division mentioning therein that since the President of Pakistan had been pleased to make a reference called a ‘DIRECTION’ by Article 209(5) of the Constitution) to the SJC against the CJP, therefore, the President had restrained Mr Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry from acting as the Chief Justice of Pakistan or even as a Judge of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.”
The honourable judges of the Supreme Court also made it clear that the case had nothing to do with army as an institution but acts of a person who happened to be chief of army staff. The judgment regarding the statement of Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain that ‘it was a matter between army and judiciary’ states, “This, in our opinion, was a naive attempt to create a wedge between two important and indispensable arms of the State and to put them on a war-path. What was in question before us was an act of the President and it was just an accident or a coincidence that the said President also happened to be the Chief of Army Staff. The matter had obviously nothing to do with the Army as an institution. Needless to add that the Army was an invaluable organ and instrument of the State and was as precious to us all as any other institution of our homeland. We, therefore, take this opportunity to express our disapproval and displeasure about the said statement.”
Political analysts and observers who had watched the situation at the time, however, told The News that the involvement of junior military officers was minimal and on the specific orders of General Pervez Musharraf who had his own personal vested interest to protect.
They said whatever happened at the time was planned and ordered by General Musharraf and no other army or intelligence officer could be blamed for it. “It was Musharraf and Musharraf alone who must be held responsible for the treatment he meted out to the judiciary and the judges have also noted this in their judgment when they said the army had nothing to do with it as an institution,” an analyst said.
It should be noted that both the ISI and the MI were directly under control of the then COAS, General Musharraf, although the ISI is supposed to be under the prime minister.
A retired general who was closed to General Pervez Musharraf when contacted said that Musharraf tried to show the door to the chief justice because he wanted extension in his tenure that was expiring, election results of his own desire and government of his own choice. He considered the chief justice as the only person who could create hurdles in the achievement of his objectives. He said Musharraf’s stakes were very high and he wanted to achieve his objectives at all costs.
Musharraf, he said, used his senior colleagues, to press the chief justice to quit. He said the then DG MI General Nadeem Ijaz, who was relative of Musharraf, crossed all limits in dealing with the opponents of the former dictator. The DG MI was the strong man of Musharraf. He said Musharraf took aggressive steps against judiciary on the advice of the DG MI, who was in fact responsible for spoiling Musharraf’s all matters related to judiciary. The DG IB went too far in bid to protect the interests of his boss (Musharraf).
He said under Musharraf’s pressure the DG MI Ijaz, DG IB Ejaz Shah, the then secretary interior and some others also submitted affidavits in the Supreme Court against the chief justice. He reminded that the DG ISI did not submit an affidavit. It was believed that Musharraf asked the DG ISI to submit his affidavit but the latter said sorry to the former. Musharraf, he said, was reportedly offended by the DG ISI. He said despite Musharraf’s intensive efforts, the then DG ISI Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani kept a reasonable distance from this issue in grace.
He said Gen Kayani was popular as a simple soldier. He did not show any interest in Musharraf’s machinations and that was why he did not submit any affidavit.
Observers are pleasantly surprised that Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry wrote the names of military generals including the former DG ISI Gen Kayani, who is present army chief, and the full court also mentioned them in their judgement without showing any fear. They said the chief justice and all the members of the full court deserve praise and esteem for showing rare courage.
Justice Khalilur Rehman Ramday also mentioned the reasons for delay in writing the detailed judgment. The judgment says, “And before I put my pen down, I wish to offer a personal explanation which I owe in connection with this judgment. As is known, the short judgment in the matter was announced on July 20, 2007 and these reasons in support of the said judgment are being recorded after almost 2-1/2 years. This rather extraordinary delay, which was on account of equally extraordinary circumstances, warrants clarification and elucidation.”
He mentioned that after vacations he was a part of a bench hearing the eligibility case of Pervez Musharraf but, when the said matter had almost reached the final stages, martial law (called emergency) was imposed in the country by General Musharraf on November 3, 2007 in his capacity as the Chief of Army Staff. Thirteen out of seventeen Judges were removed from office and some including the Chief Justice were put under house arrest which detention continued till March, 2008. “Thereafter, I was of course a free man but being a ‘REMOVED’ Judge, had no access to the Supreme Court and consequently the entire record of this case, including all the notes, were out of my reach. I, along with the Chief Justice of Pakistan and some other learned brothers, got restored to office in March, 2009 and it is thereafter that I got down to collecting the lost, the forgotten and the scattered threads and this is what I have been able to produce now.”
December 25th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
You guys want to see what our brave army is doing to us in our part of the land, Pukhtunkhwa, watch this
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23629.htm
After East Pakistan, and Baluchistan, it is now our turn to get a taste of what a rougue army does to its own people.
December 26th, 2009 at 4:21 am
it was an heart touching video,,,this is not the way of investigation, at least see the age of victims, to whom the young pakistani soldiers are kicking and beating, even animals are not treated this way……..
this is indeed a shamefull act…even after watching this video, if people of pakistan say PAKISTAN ARMY IS THE BEST then shame on your path….
December 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am
These kind of men caught who send suicder bombers in the name of islam also look at those videos where Talibans who funded by Indian Raw cuts the heads of the live peoples and soliders..
Where all the money and weapons coming from.. Indian Raw providing them to destablize Pakistan..
Man show the videos of Indian Armies who rape the kashmiri women daily and killed innocent ppl
December 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
here are the proves of indian army rapes and cruels, these indian army only brave in front of innocent women and childrens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxP-N8jRrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAQDhFQxVtk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnZicyptvo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_mMfl44Sg
look at these videos of brave indian army who beating the innocent people cruely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zRZXipvDb4
and also the innocent childrens and woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7vrA0bX8zM
surya indian you should ashmed on indian army
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zRZXipvDb4
these are very very little image of indian army..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L59amOnMJQ4&feature=related
December 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am
surya indian ! you have to ashmed on your army who rapes your women and sisters also.. indian lobby here are coming with muslim names and try to make a bad image of pakistani army here.. bcoz indians know they cant ruined pakistan by force and mid night attacks like they always do in the past.. so they are now trying to make a bad image and hiding their worst image of pakistan bcoz indian army knows they cant face pakistani armies..
the video posted by A Pushtun, Victim of The Brave Army! is an indian also bcoz how a most explosive and also the guns which also dont have pakistan armies .. where taliban gets these all kind of weapons and explosive and than do sucide attacks in pakistan killings innocent people children women.. every evidance show that the explosive used in the sucide jackets is indian type explosive and these talibans are heavly funded by raw.. bcoz when they sent the sucider to pakistani cities they also send 5 to 15 lakhs to the family of sucider’s family.. and if sucider refueses to sucide attack .. taliban killed their whole families..
the video posted by A “”Pushtun, Victim of The Brave Army!”" .. there are those videos where they cutting the head of living people and pakistani soliders.. and they are so cruel they dont even fired the bullet or do something to make him dead before cutting the heads of innocent peoples and pakistan army mens..
December 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
@PakArmyZindabad: yey side lay raha hay pak army ki k un ko badnam kar raha hay.mukti bani nay kon saa salami dee thee wahan rehnay walay pakistanis ko un ka tu koi zikar nahe.aur indian jo kashmir mayn kar rahay hay .tu koi aur hi hay aur yey nam use kar k pak army ko aur badnam kar raha hay .
January 1st, 2010 at 9:38 am
dear shafaq ,friend i never meant 2 hurt feelings of yours and pakistani people.afcours u should be proud on your army because after all they are protecting your country and your people, same way we are also proud of our indian army because they are protecting our country from china and afcourse pakistan.same time they are fighting against terrorist who cross the border and enter india from pakistan and are killed or caught by our army.if yours is such a develope country and your army is sincear and alert on your side, how people so easily cross border with arms and weapons which are made for your army.how do they get the weapons and they have good knowledge how to use those weapons.and all border crossing takes place during night time.
same time your army starts firing and shelling towards indian side to divert the attention of indian army.and help terrorist to cross border.and in reply indian army has to fire on your side, and in the morning your country gets the breaking news—that firing was done by indian army on pakistan side in the darkness of night.
why only part of news is shown and the act done by your soldiers that night are hidden from the pakistani people.there are only 2 things either your army is not alert or they are helping the terrorist to enter india. and this is a fact.and no video clippings are required to prove the act.and one thing we people dont have that much time to watch the clippings because we work hard for progress of our country and our self.
and dear shafaq how u know that the video posted by pusthun ” victim of the brave army ” is an indian.when i saw the video there was nothing such thing mentioned in the video.and i also never blamed saying that pak army is beating any indian,pakistani,afghanistani,or talibani,i mentioned my view and every one hase a right to mention their views.how you’ll come to such conclusions.
and please dont talk about kashmeer and people of kashmeer.when u have not visited kashmeer, we stay in india and visit kashmeer and speak with the the people of kashmeer ,and their problem is pak supported terrorism.which has spoiled the name of kashmeer in the world.and no tourist wants to visit the valley.which is harming the daily income,bread and progress of kashmeeri people.
and this are the views of kashmeeri people which they share with every tourist who visit kashmeer.so by this way why are you’ll runing your country name in the world.
so friend work hard for progress of yourself and your country and pray god to remove your country from the present situation.
wish u and all the people of pakistan a HAPPY 2010.
January 10th, 2010 at 11:38 am
@ surya indian: ohh c’mon stop targeting pakistan, v sew our people die every day n u still think that our army is busy in planning stupid acts like ur intelligence agencies are doing from decade in balochistan, sawat valley, and in other areas,
let me ask u the same question, if ur army n other law enforcement agencies were so alert, thn how can someone so easily got in to ur city by boat with guns & grenades. and easily attacked in ur buss city. how did that happened, is that possible really any single person can easily gets in to the other country WOW,
isn’t that funny, well u indians R real good at making stories
c’mon india hate pakistan from the very geginning thats the reason our people die every day in a terrorist attack, if v r terrorist then y all these thing r happening on our side, all these attacks shud happen on ur side(god protect everybody), BUT INDIA IS DOING ALL THIS N DON’T NO Y INDIA HATES PAKISTAN SO MUCH. u r making plans to destroy pak v r fighting with terrorist(ofcourse trained 4m india) this video is a prof that india is behind all the attacks, n our army is actually fighting with trained indian terrorists, they all r indians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAWnN8gbPjY&feature=PlayList&p=0B7A90E92F5A2CB7&index=18
UR TARGET IS TO DESTROY PAKISTAN, U BLOODY INDIANS ONE DAY U WILL REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PEACE.
January 12th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Dear Malik,
Please remove this page for your site.
If you can’t maintain a decent blog better drop this business and go look afterr your family.
Shame on you.
January 26th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
This article is about the past. We live in the present, and we’re heading toward the future. To deny the past – our own or somebody else’s – is to refuse to accept that mistakes have been made, and therefore refuse to learn. Without learning, there can be no progress.
It’s true, the Pakistan Army, for all its sins, has not yet absolutely failed to do its duty by its people. Even when interfering in civilian rule, the Pakistan Army has done its duty. It is not for me to question their “interests,” as I am but a mere civilian myself!
Rape, murder, torture and brutal atrocities however, are not part of its duty. To overlook the reality of brutality, to let fervor overshadow critical inquiry, is to join the ranks of those who committed these brutalities.
On the other hand – the Pakistan Army is not alone in these awful crimes against humanity. What the U.S. Army did in Afghanistan and Iraq, what the Indian army did in Kashmir – and what both armies are still doing – must raise the question not of who to blame – but of where to find the source of
such uncontrolled aggression.
The army – any army – is meant to protect a nation’s interests. Preemptive war, such as the one waged in Iraq, is not excusable, but it has been forgotten – because fervor has overshadowed criticism. In the same way, what Pakistan’s Army did in what was still East Pakistan back then, is not excusable – and if we would like to point fingers at foreign armies and the horrors against humanity they have committed, we must do so. However, we must remember and accept our own faults where they exist, to be able to point fingers at others with a clear conscience.
Perhaps the trouble with armies is that they have proactively expanded the sphere of their influence, and their “duties” over time. And with this expansion, they have also managed to make acceptable what never should be acceptable.
An army exists to defend, to protect. To attack when national interests are actually threatened. To preserve sovereignty. It does NOT exist to exert force in order to achieve control. It does NOT exist for the wilful destruction of human life, property and rights.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:07 am
dear zenab……i truly apreciate your thinking…..u r very much true….people like u can truely bring new revoulation in your country…………..thums up dear…….u realy deserve it….
i would really like to speak or chat with u….how can i cntct u…we can share our thinking and views for better future of both our country’s
February 3rd, 2010 at 8:18 am
y e sb jhoti shohrat hasil krny k treqay hain sirf aj he nahien bal-k mazi min b es trah k propoganda kiay jaty rehay hian.chhoti c bat ko berra bna k phlaty hain.
khud dekhain ????????
kia usama bin ladan etna powerful hy jetna btaya jata hay???
kia AlQaida so called etni mazboot hay ???
kia international media pr yahodion kay elawa kisi or ka b control hy ???
Hum khud ko sacha sabit krny k liay alfazi ziada krty hain or amal kam!!!!
February 7th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Mr.Malick Thanks for the article .I am a Pakistani.
A request to all Pakistani who are blindly yelling and protecting Pakistani Army …Face the truth .If the Pakistani army did something wrong ,instead of defending one wrong doing ,we should accept it .Enough hatred has been discharged .And please dont try to brnad me a RAW agent .
“you wanna know how much respect the army commands ? Ask anyone in Baluchistan , ask any Sindhi or Urdu speaking in Karachi .You will find the answer .Azamisha Shart hai .All of them consider Pakistani army as Punjabi army , just protecting the interest of Punjabis.Pakistani army generals( almost all 99% are the most affluent elite class in Pakistan , all of thier children stufying in the USA and Western Countries .While our Sindhi Haris ( peasants ) is dying of hunger in Sindh , Punjabi retired army settled with millions of acres prized land in Sindh enjojoying a lavish life .
Aankhen kholo , jo army apne hi muslaman bhaion ki maani chein kar khati hai woh mercenaries hain .Sirf gala phar kaar army ko defend na karo .Jo sach hai face karo .Yaqeen nahi aata hai to kisi Balaoch ,Sindhi ya urdu speaking se pooch lo .Allah tum Punajbion ko raahe rast dekhae .Bangali auraten Quran ka wasta deti reh gain aur Punjabi army unhe rape karta raha .Yeh musalman hain ? Yaad rakhna Allah SWT sab dekhta hai .Daro oos din se .Hame nuksan pohchane ke liye India ki zaroorat nahi hai ,eh army hi kafi hai .Sirf aik baat ka jwab do , DR Afia Siddiqui kia kafir thi ? usko pakar kar ,kis ne USA ke hawlae kia aur kitne dollar main ? Apne dil par haatrakh kar jawab do .
February 9th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
let me tell u a real story
before partitioning there were rumours about small clashes of hindu and Muslims. Once bharti nanga kutta gandhi decided to show some high british office holder that in fact there is nothing to worry about and they should handover subcontinent to congress alone. Gandhi took the officer with him in a Muslim majority area to prove all is well but guess what he saw…. NOTHING, within the radius of miles nothing except dead bodies lying open in fields, tube wells overflown with the bodies of women and girls and babies attached to trees through nails with crows eating their flesh. Thats when Gandhi actually realized that hindu is not as much peace loving people as he was preaching about his whole life and the british officer also realized it was not the some feud between communities it was genocide (i can also name many authors who qouted this and even more than u did) and he gave his report that give a separate homeland to Muslims or else hindus as the most racist nation in the world (in fact the only one to have made castes even within themselves) will consume the Muslims….
February 9th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
and there is so much propaganda about this because actually many few were killed. If so many people were killed then practically there shouldnt b anyone to tell these stories like no one knows accurately how many people were masssacred, how many girls were kidnapped, how many pregnant women were forced to give birth in front of crowds, how many women were gangraped, how many children were thrown into the rivers or how many villages were burnt with living souls in them while migrating to Pakistan during partition only the foundations of our country can tell.
February 9th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
i wonder whether the ones writing against Pakistan are results of these so called rapes by Pakistani army…. hahahaha…. so sweet mentally disable war babies dont cry na..!!